Oregon Gas laws (- Yet another attack on freedom)

CAPITALISTCHICKS.COM ^ | FR Post 12-1-2002 | Debbie Brannigan

[itsahoot]

I liked it a whole lot better when that was considered a necessary service, along with checking the oil, water and air pressure of tires.

[Freeper 007]

While I agree with you about the choice, gas doesn't get much cheaper than here in NJ.

[baseballmom]

I pump my own 99% of the time. Gas is about 1.47 in Philly area.

Coming home from the Jersey Shore this summer, I needed to fill up- and didn't realize that I couldn't pump my own gas.(I never had occasion to buy gas in Jersey) I had to wait 15 minutes because the attendant (just 1) was busy with the 3 other cars. It drove me crazy. Well, he was nice, and did clean my windshield, but... aarrrggghhhhhh.. Lesson learned. Fill up before I leave home, and don't wait to re-fuel near the Garden State Pkwy.

[Jhoffa_]

11) The increased use of self-service at retail in other states has contributed to diminishing the availability of automotive repair facilities at gasoline stations.

As a mechanically astute person I can tell you this is total garbage.

What happened to the local garage is two things.

1) Reliability has been increased considerably. There are now cars that go 100,000 miles without requiring a tune up. In the past this was not the case.

2) The complexity of automobiles has increased to a point that precludes "shade tree" schmuck's with just hammer's and screwdriver's from repairing them effectively.

Thus, "gas pump laws" are not going to bring back the local garage.

This whole thing is insane, what's next "soap on the shower floor" laws?

[itsahoot]

Self pumped gas is always cheaper.

Only until you get used to the price going up. Diesel used to be 10 cents, while gasoline was 75 cents. When I was a teenager gasoline was available at full service stations for 24.9 cents. I have seen it low as 8 cents, before I drove of course :) Anyone remember price wars at competing service stations? Now they all raise their price at the same time, people are used to it, after all there is a shortage. Har, har, Har.

[Old Professer]

What's up with the price differential? It doesn't really cost any more to make gasoline with different octane ratings.

Actually, it does.

[fifteendogs]

I live in northern California and buy my gas in Oregon. Gasoline in California is 1.85. In Oregon it is 1.29 and I don't have to pump my gas.

[itsahoot]

Dude! Stop getting your gas at Wal-Mart. If you look for an Exxon or Texaco sign you will find a place that has a full-service pump.

Sure can here, and at the bargain price of $2.59 in my city. Handicapped, old and infirm people really get a such a deal.

[cmsgop]

Very Good!

When I drive to Oregon and fill up there I always forget, Hence some guy in his 40's is yelling STOP!!!!!!!!! Makes me laugh every time......

[Doe Eyes]

I think the a federal law should be passed requiring all retail outlets selling gasoline within one mile of an Interstate or US highway to have self-serve pumps.

Sounds like a good way to get those wayward states in line. The feds should also withhold highway funds from those states that dare disobey.

[Feckless]

The first time an attendent told me this I thought he was joking. I was on my way to Ft. Lewis after a 3 year tour in a 37th Trans Group unit driving, working on, and recovering 5,000 gal tankers of MOGAS, Diesel, and JP4.
I once stood ankle deep in JP4 and cut a bumper out of a tanker with an oxy-act torch (lots of Feurwher foam all around) but I can't pump $10 worth of Premium into my TR7.
Go figure...........

[FreedomCalls]

Sure can here, and at the bargain price of $2.59 in my city. Handicapped, old and infirm people really get a such a deal.

EVERY self-serve place I have seen has a sign saying "handicapped -- sound horn for assistance" or has a large push button placed low down for easy access that will also call an attendent. In order to comply with the ADA, they have to. If you use that service and you are handicapped, you will get charged the same price as everyone else. If you are handicapped you do not have to use the "full-service" pumps and pay extra.

This is yet another false argument from those who don't like freedom of choice and insist on government control over people's everyday decisions.

[serinde]

Anyone remember price wars at competing service stations?

LOL. I remember one when I was a kid. The usual price was about $0.30/gal, and it got all the way to $.05 in a week or so. Then it went back up, of course.

[serinde]

Handicapped, old and infirm people really get a such a deal.

I live in Texas. I'm disabled. I usually pump my own fuel anyway. There are all of 4 (I think) full-service stations in town, and two of them have ripped me off when I asked them to give me the handicapped discount. I decided it was easier to do it myself than go through that again.

[ladylib]

Don't wanna.

[FreedomCalls]

I can CHOOSE to pump my own. You can't.

Don't wanna.

This is a typical liberal response. Since you don't want to, you expect everybody else to think the same way. In my state we have a choice. If you "don't wanna", you "don't hafta." If I "wanna", I can. In New Jersey and in Oregon, you can't.

[FreedomCalls]

There are all of 4 (I think) full-service stations in town, and two of them have ripped me off when I asked them to give me the handicapped discount.

There is no such thing as a "handicapped discount" at a full-service pump. Either you are at a full-service pump at a higher price or you are at a self-service pump at a lower price. If you are handicapped and want to pay the self-service price, pull up to the self-service pumps and ask for assistance. The ADA mandates that they help you.

[logic101.net]

Lets see, a lower price for self service, yet a higher price for full service discriminates against the poor? Hmmmm, the poor ONLY use full service? Perhaps this points to why they are poor?

MARK A SITY
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[Clinging Bitterly]

> ...and your car will run better.

Huh? Because it's "professionally" pumped?

> Kalifornistan's rough-running bilgewater

Oh. You're talkin' about the "oxygenated" stuff?
We have the same stuff in Oregon during the cooler half of the year (right now). It does seem to hold a bit more water than the regular stuff. I discovered the hard way a few years back, when I had a long commute, that the oxygenated stuff delivers slightly lower miles per gallon. I could go to work and back two days on a tankful of the regular stuff, but when they switched to the winter blend it fell about 3 miles short (but at least it quit on me right in front of the golf course, so I was able to play the 19th hole while waiting).

Dave in Eugene

[Clinging Bitterly]

> What's up with the price differential? It doesn't really cost any more to make gasoline with different octane ratings.

Because they can?
Heck I don't know. I remember when unleaded first became a requirement with the advent of the catalytic converters. I always thought it was funny that they charged a couple cents more per gallon to not put the lead in. Folks I know used to take that little restrictor hole out of their fill spouts so the regular nozzle would fit (of course I would never do something like that).

Dave in Eugene