1 posted on
11/19/2002 8:36:24 AM PST by
Dallas
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To: Dallas
For those who believe that all sanity is being lost from this country with the hellish destruction of all reference to God in public life, it's good to know that somewhere on earth, common sense is returning.
Where? Russia. That's right. Russia. That former world-leader of religious persecution and all things spiritual is now allowing religion in its schools. Like St.Paul, who first persecuted the early Church and then became its greatest missionary, Russia too, has begun to be a part of the solution, rather than a part of the problem.
Schools to Teach Orthodox Culture
Maybe soon it will begin to send out missionaries to the newly pagan west
To: Dallas
Hell yes...a real hombre. I love it.
To: Dallas
Thought it was about time that somebody actually posted a picture of the monument at the center of all this attention.
Almost seems as strange as that story the other day about blaming a gun for somebody's killing. I suppose the next thing will be that we have a court order to erase the inscription engraved on the Liberty Bell.
To: Dallas
Take it to the Supreme Court, Judge Moore!
167 posted on
11/19/2002 10:14:57 AM PST by
hattend
To: Dallas; mhking; tutstar; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Dr. Eckleburg; w_over_w; ...
This case has a lot of problems that could and should turn it over on appeal anyway.
Morris Dees (infamous pervert, liberal media darling) wrote the following letter which somehow was delivered to Judge Roy Moore.
http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0022569.html
"You might remember that, from the start, I was laying our trial theme, i.e., how this was the act of a lone religious nut in partnership with a fanatical church,[Dees is talking about Dr. D. James Kennedy and the church he pastors "Dr. D. James Kennedy is the most listened-to Presbyterian minister in the world today."
http://www.coralridge.org/default.asp "]
Morris Dees, a lawyer challenging the monument, wrote to Ayesha Khan, a lawyer with Americans United for Separation of Church and State. "This is the story that will make this case so dirty that no appeals court will reverse [the district court judge] to make new law."
The problem with that for Morris Dees and the judge trying the case is serious. The letter implies District Judge Myron Thompson may have already made up his mind about the case even before hearing arguments in the case.
So if there is an appeal, it looks like the antics of the famous pervert Morris Dees could be on trial. (Not the antics in this link
http://www.zianet.com/wblase/endtimes/dees1.htm but his behind the scenes dealings with this trial.)
Judge Thompson was asked to recuse himself when this letter was made public but refused.
(from
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/791164/posts )
Some interesting comments made by the Judge found here.
http://www.family.org/cforum/citizenmag/webonly/A0022875.html
In fact, U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson explained Wednesday after closing arguments in the case that the central question hell address in his ruling, which he promised by Nov. 18, is what Moore hoped would be the focus all along.
I think Ill start my opinion, Thompson said, The issue here is, can the state acknowledge God?
A few facts about the liberal Thompson.
Thompson, who holds bachelor's and law degrees from Yale University, has issued rulings from the federal bench that:
** Held that Alabama's requirement that college sophomores score 16 on the American College Test to be admitted to undergraduate teacher-training programs had racially "disparate impact" in violation of Title VII;
** Approved a settlement that required the Alabama state post-secondary system to appoint more blacks to presidential, faculty, administrative and other supervisory positions through the use of aggressive recruitment and, if necessary, hiring goals;
** Struck down an Alabama law barring gay and lesbian groups on college campuses from receiving public money or official support, saying the law violated the guarantees of free speech and free association.
This judge also denied the State's motions to dismiss a challenge to Alabama's bans on partial-birth and post-viability abortions.
http://www.crlp.org/pr_98_0129.html
Judge Myron H.Thompson,
US Courthouse,
15 Lee St.,
Montgomery, AL 36104
Tel: 334 223-7312,
(334) 954-3650
Fax: 334 223-711
Proverbs 29:2 ¶When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
229 posted on
11/19/2002 10:43:19 AM PST by
Jael
To: Dallas
Putting aside the constitutional question for a moment, isn't it obviously a good idea for law breakers to be exposed, if briefly, to basic laws of good behavior? I thought the "civil libertarians" were supposed to be pragmatists who are against dogma.
To: Dallas
You gotta love this guyActually, no I don't. Its one thing for ordinary citizens to defy court orders, its another thing altogether for a State Supreme Court Justice to do so. That sets a despicable precedent against the rule of law, much graver than the actual issue at hand. The Federal Judge needs hold Judge Moore in contempt. If Moore doesn't follow the Judge's order, he should go to prison until such time as he's willing to comply.
To: Dallas
Two quotes on our common religion . . .
"With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.
This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties." -- John Jay, Federalist Paper #2
"For this you have every inducement of sympathy and interest. Citizens by birth or choice, of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same Religeon, Manners, Habits & political Principles. You have in a common cause fought & triumphed together--The independence & liberty you possess are the work of joint councils, and joint efforts--of common dangers, sufferings and successes.
. . . Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labour to subvert these great Pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men & citizens. The mere Politican, equally with the pious man ought to respect & to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private & public felicity. Let it simply be asked where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the Oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure--reason & experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. " -- George Washington, Farewell Address
To: Dallas
I believe we have the obvious candidate for the first vacancy on the US Supreme Court. Talk about driving the Dems nuts...
336 posted on
11/19/2002 11:40:15 AM PST by
Argus
To: Dallas
You gotta love this guy.... You bet. God bless Judge Moore.
To: Dallas
The purging of religious symbols has gobe far enough. When you consider that our law is based on the English common law, and that the oldest expression of that law written in Latin by Catholic priests, extreme secular objections are just plain silly. Next they will try to replace all oaths by affirmations.
424 posted on
11/19/2002 12:38:18 PM PST by
RobbyS
To: Dallas
"BLACK ROBED THIEVES"from the federal court are always issuing WRONG RULINGS!It's not the criminals who need to be locked up,BUT THE JUDGES!
To: Dallas
A couple of my favorite quotes.This Judge is doing the right thing!
On seperation of Church and State
It is impossible to build sound Constitutional doctrine
on a mistaken understanding of Constitutional history...
The establishment clause had been expressely freighted with
Jeffersons misleading metaphor for nearly forty years...
There is simply no historical foundation for the proposition
that the framers intended to build a wall of seperation
[between church and state]...
The recent court decisions are in no way based on either
the language or the intent of the framers.
William H. Rehnquist
1985 Assoc. Justice U.S. Supreme Court
Wallace vs Jafree
It cannot be emphasized to strongly or too often
that this great nation was founded, not by religionists
but by Christians, not on religions,
but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ
For this very reason people of other faiths
have been afforded asylum, prosperity,
and freedom of worship here.
Patrick Henry
To: Dallas
Hell, I'm not a religious person and I love him.
The Diversity Nazis need a lesson in Americanism.
To: Dallas
This is wonderful, but...
"Moore said he has received no order for the monument's removal, but if he does he will appeal to higher courts." (See
FoxNews - Alabama Justice Vows to Fight Ten Commandments Ruling).
I think the real fireworks may happen *if* Judge Moore loses the appeal & *still* refuses to remove the monument.
To: Dallas
Good! This judge has GUTS! Too bad more officials like him were not around back when SCOTUS took religion out of public schools, Roe v. Wade and other immoral unconstitutional SCOTUS decisions to tell those geezers to take a hike!
To: Dallas
He has my vote for President.
To: Dallas
He's the best.
Judge do not give in to those Satanists.
774 posted on
11/20/2002 7:13:55 PM PST by
Coleus
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