Federal court says yes, you can talk about pot

American Medical News ^ | Nov. 18, 2002 | Tanya Albert, AMNews staff

[BikerNYC]

Nowhere in the Constitution is it prohibited to commit murder.

And, I believe, murder, in and of itself, is not a federal crime. There must be something else that brings it under federal jurisdiction.

[AAABEST]

Physicians can discuss the pros and cons of medicinal marijuana with their patients without worry of the Drug Enforcement Administration cracking down on them, a federal appeals court ruled in October.

I would like to take this time to thank our princes and lords for allowing us peasants to discuss pot amongst ourselves.

Thank you for your graciousness kind sirs.

[jayef]

It is clear that though The Constitution is silent specifically on the act of murder, it would nonetheless be a clear violation of its principles when viewed in toto. Thus also is The Constitution silent on the specifics of what things we may or may not consume, but it is abundantly clear that it gives a Federal Government no such authority.

[Illbay]

That's why my point. It is just a silly argument to assert "since X is not mentioned in the Constitution, then X is permitted to the people."

In actuality, X isn't mentioned in the Constitution because it is up to the states to address.

Murder is against the law in every state in the union (and all territories). Passing laws against murder is not unconstitutional.

Likewise, it is against the law in every state to sell and use illicit drugs. These laws are perfectly valid, and asserting that they're not because you think "God gave you this herb to use" is adolescent.

I have no problem with someone trying to change the laws against drugs--even as I work just as hard to keep them in place, and even strengthen them. That's the way a Republic works.

In their frustration, those who are greatly outnumbered because their anti-social notions are consistently rejected try to assert that no one has the right to MAKE such laws. It's like a 16-year-old child screaming to his parents "you can't tell me what to do!"

The argument is tiresome and, repeat, childish.

[BikerNYC]

In actuality, X isn't mentioned in the Constitution because it is up to the states to address.

I agree. So what the hell is the federal government doing in this WOD? It should be left to the states.

[Illbay]

Although you Libertines love to pout about the Feds, the fact is the the preponderance of drug laws, and drug enforcement, happens at the state level. That's where your argument gets shot clear to h*ll (as it did last week in Nevada).

Your cause is a LOST cause, and I've patiently explained to you, over and over, why this is. Like eternal teenagers, though, you continue your temper tantrums, because you can't get what you want.

I fully support every effort to forcibly put people like you in drug rehab. That way, you pose less of a threat to me and mine.

Running around as you are, you are a vile threat.

[PaxMacian]

The only threat is to your fascist ideals.
Regarding the votes last week in Nevada,60/40 only points to the tyranny of the majority which is devouring this fledgling republic.

[PaxMacian]

RE: It's like a 16-year-old child screaming to his parents "you can't tell me what to do!"

More like,
"Give me Liberty or give me death!"

[PaxMacian]

RE: I fully support every effort to forcibly put people like you in drug rehab.

In reality you support FORCED gov't religious reprogramming PAID FOR BY THE SINNER
which rarely, if ever, works
except to indoctrinate one into synicism.

Ever here of the serenity prayer?

[RJCogburn]

This is common sense

Uh-oh. Now you've done it.

[PaxMacian]

Ever HEAR of the Serenity Prayer?

Forced upon all forced into rehab by fascists.

[philetus]

Yes. It is your God given right to murder,if you decide that's what you want to do.

It's also our God given right to fry your ass if you do.

[PaxMacian]

RE: That's why my point. It is just a silly argument to assert "since X is not mentioned in the Constitution, then X is permitted to the people." In actuality, X isn't mentioned in the Constitution because it is up to the states to address.


WRONG! The people have rights given by God!

Article IX.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

What more basic God given right can there be then to determine what you consume?

[PaxMacian]

Neither of your statements are true!
One's rights end where an other's begins.
You may not infringe upon an other's right to life.
And, this includes the death penalty.
Jesus had something to say about an eye for an eye.

[PaxMacian]

RE:
Your cause is a LOST cause, and I've patiently explained to you, over and over, why this is. Like eternal teenagers, though, you continue your temper tantrums,because you can't get what you want.

I can get anything I want anytime, and better then a decade or two ago. I'll do you one better, not eternal teenagers, but eternal children of God. PaxMacian means peacemaker, and Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God." The only lost thing around here seems to be your soul. Search and see the truth, you don't want users in rehab, you want them locked up, their property seized to support the WOD, and you would probably enjoy hearing about their sodomization in the largest prison system in the free world. This kind of thought I am certain God would find VILE.

[Illbay]

What more basic God given right can there be then to determine what you consume?

That's an odd statement. The most basic God given right would be that of self-protection.

Such as protecting yourself, your family and your community from dope-fiends without a shred of self-respect, not to mention respect for others.

That's my right, I'm CONTINUING to assert it.

Keep your nose clean, boy, and you'll stay your *ss out of jail. Otherwise, we're comin' for ya.

Got that?

[ActionNewsBill]

This court is a preview of what a libertarian government would bring to America.

You WOD jack booted thugs are amazing. Not only do you want people using pot, medically or recreationally to be incarcerated, and doctors punished for prescribing it, but if you had your way, you would make it illegal for anyone to even speak on the subject.

[Illbay]

You're one of those "Christians for Cannabis" types, I guess.

Sort of like "Radical Islamists for Peace."

[Illbay]

"Medical marijuana," what a joke! The fact that there are myriads of other medications, each of which are far better for the purpose than pot, not to mention the fact that THC can be extracted, and even synthesized...these are things you "medical marijuana" frauds won't even address.

Just like your Leftist cousins: "Let's make a virtue out of a horrid vice, and make anyone who doesn't buy into our lies feel ashamed."

On November 5, though, we showed you just how "ashamed" we were. Skunked your filthy *sses, is what we did.

[RJCogburn]

The fact that there are myriads of other medications, each of which are far better for the purpose than pot,

Perhaps. That decision should be made by physician and patient, not an anonymous poster on a conservative website...meaning you or me.