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Potential locked up in prisons (the new slavery)
The Kansas City Star ^ | 11/08/2002 | Lewis Diuguid

Posted on 11/08/2002 9:00:09 AM PST by mfreddy

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To: TroutStalker
Are you kidding me? He's the "Vice President, Community affairs". He's a prize to them.
21 posted on 11/08/2002 10:29:49 AM PST by mfreddy
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Slavery boosted the economy of the South, where U.S. wealth until 1865 was concentrated. Does this assertion strike anyone else as bogus?

It struck me as bogus. I believe that the north won the war because of immensely greater manpower, industrial capacity, natural resources, and transportation (rail).
22 posted on 11/08/2002 10:29:55 AM PST by johnb838
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To: mfreddy
I forgot--remember, you're not the house negro if you are a liberal who criticizes and race-baits white people. You are a house negro if you are a conservative. Just ask Harry.
23 posted on 11/08/2002 10:31:14 AM PST by mfreddy
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24 posted on 11/08/2002 10:31:44 AM PST by mhking
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To: mfreddy
There is no big "potential" locked up in U.S. prisons - other than potential for trouble.

These people are overwhelmingly drug addicts, high-school dropouts, or both - in an era of vast underemployment and even unemployment among college graduates in the U.S. Many are aliens not even legally eligible to work in the U.S. anyhow.

25 posted on 11/08/2002 10:32:27 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: mfreddy; rdb3; hchutch
She's an idiot - I bet she'd change her tune real damn quick as soon as she was mugged or carjacked by one of our "misunderstood" brothas...
26 posted on 11/08/2002 10:32:47 AM PST by mhking
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To: mfreddy
Prisons today are a boon to rural communities, creating jobs, new housing, restaurants, hotels and other feeder industries. Inmate labor also generates capital.

What crap. From what I've seen, prisons rip the economic guts out of the communities in which they're placed. Not only is valuable land taken out of the development mix, the associated tax base is lost. Spinoffs include crappy trailer parks for the guards and employees to live in, a couple of fast food joints and convenience stores to support the same low paid population, etc.

It ain't a boon.

We need fewer laws, and less jail time in general.

27 posted on 11/08/2002 10:33:29 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: mfreddy
If incarceration is such a raw deal for inmates, and particularly blacks, maybe they could consider refraining from committing felonies. Just a thought.
28 posted on 11/08/2002 10:36:04 AM PST by Still Thinking
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To: mhking
She still thinks that it's the '60s. She has no clout.

No mercy.
Coming soon: Tha SYNDICATE.
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29 posted on 11/08/2002 10:36:54 AM PST by rdb3
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Not to mention the welfare recipients who move there to be close to their kin.
30 posted on 11/08/2002 10:37:22 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: mfreddy
Davis, a 1960s radical, author and professor in the history and consciousness department at the University of California-Santa Cruz

What in the wide world of sports is the "History and Consciousness" Department? Does UCSC also have a "History and Unconsciousness" Department? (I guess not, because that's where Davis ought to be teaching.)

31 posted on 11/08/2002 10:37:23 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
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To: mhking
I think she's in one of those suburban communities, decrying the alck of opportunity - despite the fact she seems to have done well in life...
32 posted on 11/08/2002 10:38:42 AM PST by hchutch
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To: mfreddy
"..."In the beginning of the 21st century, we should be talking about the abolition of the prison system," Davis said...."

This comes under the heading of "stopped clock is right!!"

Characteristically, Davis is unable to bolster her argument by describing the slavery inflicted upon society as a whole by the current "criminal justice system". Like most Lefties, she is uninterested in the health of "society as a whole." Lenin is reputed to have burst out crying when he heard that the czar was carrying out land reforms that benefited former serfs. I'm sure most of the soi-disant social reformers among us would have a caniption fit if any real, beneficial social reforms ever took place in their life time.

I wonder how long white Americans will continue to invest in the delusion that they can buy off the inevitable cultural "confrontation" by building more and more prisons?

Furthermore the Power Elite are intent upon removing any taint of "racism" in our incarceration practices by targetting more and more poor white men. And, of course, we all know what awaits whitey in American prisons. Luckily none of us are like those ugly red-necks. It will never happen to us.

Someone else on this thread mentioned the Carr brothers--one of whom is a graduate of what, for many black males, is their institutions of "higher" learning--prison.

But don't worry, be happy. Just like the women of Afghanistan, the people of Iraq will soon be "free at last, free at last."

And that's what really counts, isn't it?....

33 posted on 11/08/2002 10:40:15 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I smell a nasty Libertarian...!
34 posted on 11/08/2002 10:42:43 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: mfreddy
Incarceration slows the black community's economic progress.

Crime slows the black community's progress.

Davis urged people to do more to create a better environment outside of prison to eliminate the need for incarceration

Biblical justice eliminates the need for penitentiaries. Crimes against persons are punished eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life. Crimes against property are punished with restition, or indentured labor (for a limited term) if one is unable to pay the debt. Crimes against God (blasphemy, sodomy, adultery, etc) are punished by death. Perjury is punished by giving the false accuser, what the falsely accused would have received.

Simple, elegant, cheap. Who needs prisons?

35 posted on 11/08/2002 10:43:24 AM PST by Rytwyng
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
...We need fewer laws, and less jail time in general...

Worth repeating.

The sole encouraging result from Downeast Maine on Tuesday was the voter refusal to fund the building of a prison.

(Unfortunately, it was the only thing they refused to fund.)

36 posted on 11/08/2002 10:48:10 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: mfreddy
Also, 51 percent of black married-couple-families had incomes of $50,000 or more compared with 60 percent of whites. Incarceration slows the black community's economic progress.

She can't find anything positive in this? Black married couples making over $50,000 aren't the same people going to prison either. She seems to lump all blacks together.

37 posted on 11/08/2002 10:49:51 AM PST by FITZ
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To: mfreddy
"60's radical"??? Now *that's* funny.

Calling avowed communist Angela Davis a mere "radical" is like calling Josef Mengele's practice "Alternative Medicine".
38 posted on 11/08/2002 10:50:36 AM PST by Ramius
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To: mfreddy
Thanks for the post, mfreddy. I continue to wonder when the black community as a whole will start to accept responsiblity for their own conduct and actions instead of blaming white people; some of whom also came to this country as slaves.
39 posted on 11/08/2002 10:56:05 AM PST by MoGalahad
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To: MichiganConservative
... This is so factually incorrect. Those northerners with their factories, raliroads, and commerce were just SOOOOO much poorer. These people like to think slaves drove the economy. They didn't. The industrial revolution left the slave-labor-powered agrarian society of the South in the dust...

The Civil War accelerated the industrialization of the North--that's true. But vast areas of the North were still largely agrarian and without the "investment" in human slaves were, technically, "poorer" than the South.

It was, in the main, FARMBOYS from the midwest who vanquished the South.

You've fallen prey to the common marxist analysis of the war--strangely, a favorite analysis of modern "Southern Nationalists"....

40 posted on 11/08/2002 10:56:43 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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