Pollsters' Inaccuracy (Zogby) In 2002 Contests Worries Industry

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[jern]

You might want to check this out: Final Zogby poll numbers VS Results of Election Night (A FR Archive thread)

[Gary Boldwater]

Wasn't the Clinton administration poll driven?

[Tuco-bad]

Pollsters' Inaccuracy (Zogby) In 2002 Contests Worries Industry

Zogby did even worse in 2000, when the Reps lost 5 Senate seats/

[Grampa Dave]

Zogby is a Pro Rat and Islamakazi backer. Any survey that he releases has to be considered biased and a possible tool for the rats or his Islamofascist ruler buddies.

I still believe that he provided the cover for massive Rat voter fraud in the 2000 elections by his calls that magically included massive voter fraud the evening before the election. There is no way that phone surveys can predict massive voter fraud unless you are in on the fix.

[Lysander]

When I used to teach a college Methods of Research class I would harp on the fact that “Questionnaires are questionable-- People lie.”

[Lurking2Long]

We should all ignore polls COMPLETELY and just work to keep our base energized, while, at the same time, looking for "Independents" to bring into the republican fold.

[Mad Dawgg]

"People lie."

I was polled on the phone on 11-4-2002

I lied my ass off!

As far as the pollster is concerned I was for divided government, not invading Iraq, and a Democrat majority in the Senate.

Bwah ha ha ha!

[tonyinv]

The horror..politicians are just gonna have to stand for something! Election campaigns will actually matter again. This is a good thing.

I never quite understood how 1,006 people on a Thursday and Friday night, could represent the views of about 300,000 Americans. I for one will be glad to see this crap go by the wayside.

[Gary Boldwater]

Shame on you! I bet you're even a registered Democrat just to throw them off. Shame, shame! Oh! The humanity!

BWAHAHAHA!!! Well done!

[longtermmemmory]

This is why the VNS shut down their exit polls on election night. Perhaps the results were accurate and the results were too republican and the left leaning reporters freaked out. It would have been interesting to see: "What another republican leading? Something MUST be wrong..."

[Taiwan Bocks]

For awhile there polling was an interest more like a curiosity.

We should have seen it as the pollutant it is then!

The proverbial camel's nose under the tent grew and grew until the camel dwelt inside the tent.

Then Zogby starts editorializing.

Blow off polls vocally, speak against polling in general,
pick Zogby as a scapegoat if necessary, he deserves it.

[FreedomPoster]

>>Many Americans use caller-ID telephone technology to screen out calls from survey takers.

Higher income Americans tend to get more of these calls (that's called "good marketing"), thus would tend to use this technology more. Republicans tend to be higher income, thus more likely to be undercounted due to use of this technology.

[flushed with pride]

1006! That's a HUGE sample compared to what I normally read about. Typically the group polled is in the 300 to 600 range, and yet the media will hype it as if the numbers were X1000.

[OldFriend]

Zogby and the toe sucker.......perfect together. SPIN CENTRAL

[OldFriend]

I think you are right about the VNS......and I hope it NEVER EVER returns.

[OldFriend]

When they want true polling data they use the lists of people who vote all the time.

[Mad Dawgg]

"BWAHAHAHA!!! Well done!"

Mrs. Dawgg claims I have a mean streak concerning telephone interuptions, she cites the following examples:

Once a telemarketing firm called while we had dinner guests.
I put the caller on speaker phone and waited till he asked for a response which was: "is you purdy?"
reponse by TM: click, dial tone.

Next time was a Fundraiser TM during dinner with very same guests in attendance.
The TM was wanting a donation for Native American Orphans.
I declined the offer.
The TM asked "don't you care about starving Native American Orphans?"
My reply: No.
TM response: click, Dial tone.

[LibertarianLiz]

Some survey results did reflect the late Republican surge

Yes, which papers like the NY Times buried deep in the paper because they didn't trust the "accuracy" of the survey. IOWs, Republicans were ahead and they just couldn't wrap their feeble minds around that fact. (BTW, watching Brit Hume's show on Monday, he and his panel also dismissed the survey numbers as probably inaccurate.)

This can all be boiled down to the pre-set minds of the media and the pollsters. The numbers were there, the pollsters and the media just didn't agree with them.

[spoiler2]

When it comes to pollsters inaccuracy this time around, Zogby's data and conclusions are contaminated due to his personal biases.

A Zogby poll will be worthless during the upcoming months, unless he can rid his product of his own pollution!

[js1138]

I was called in late October. I refused to answer. The only poll I've ever responded to was about fried chicken restaurants. One of my favorite topics.