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VT Christian Homeschooling Mom Taken Away In Shackles!
The Curmudgeon: A Vermont Newsletter | 10/17/02 | Cindy Wade

Posted on 10/21/2002 9:45:25 AM PDT by Truant Mom

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To: SERE_DOC
Sorry to say AppyPappy but you are a moron by your statement, and don't have a clue about the subject

You guys are the ones who get burned time and time again by attaching your star to these paranoid nutcases, not me. A woman who would rather lose her kids than have her picture taken. Wonderful.

41 posted on 10/21/2002 3:18:05 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
" A woman who would rather lose her kids than have her picture taken. Wonderful. "

and it's people like you who bend over & drop trou just because the "authorities" say you have to. I will grant you this lady was wrong... wrong to stay in a state that requires these police state actions.

Just say no to intrusive governments and I respectfully suggest you take an 1149 and in the block that says "nomenclature" fill in "spine"

42 posted on 10/21/2002 3:28:26 PM PDT by SERE_DOC
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To: Truant Mom
Ah, again we have special education qualified children who don't wish to attend public schools. It all comes down to money.
43 posted on 10/21/2002 3:30:39 PM PDT by Eva
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To: AppyPappy
No, they are taken from the HSLDA current cases of people whose rights have been violated by social workers and public schools. I know nothing about this woman particularly, perhaps she is wrong or perhaps she is right. It doesn't sound like she is getting decent representation. HSLDA would probably have advised her to submit to the procedure, but I also know they often tell people not to in order not to set precedent; i.e., the lady that told them she wasn't giving them permission to come into her house but that the gate was open. This kept her legal options open for the future without putting her in a position of being beaten up by the police.

Many cases I read the social workers back off immediately once HSLDA comes into the picture because they KNOW they are in the wrong. In many of the cases I read the family will hand the phone (with the HSLDA lawyer on the other end) out the door to talk to the social worker, because they do NOT have the right to come into your house and search simply because you homeschool. In many cases HSLDA is able to address the issue and the social worker ends up leaving.

Homeschooling families have to be ever vigilant, or they will be served up to the powers that be like skewered beef on a stick. I probably should mention that HSLDA is HomeSchool Legal Defense Association. Homeschoolers pay yearly dues and they fight for HS rights, laws, and represent you if the state gets overambitious.

44 posted on 10/21/2002 3:58:05 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
that is a very noble thing to be a part of the Home School Legal Defense Authority. Home schoolers are heroes too. It is so sad to read the stories of what the various state governments are now starting to do to the homeschoolers.

There are so many homeschoolers who are completely unqualified to do the job, some of them not even so smart, some of them not even working hard at it as they should, and yet even these parents are frequently getting better results with the kids than the local public schools. That's the shocking thing everyone should be concerned about.

Instead, they gather around like jackals and nip at these homeschoolers' heels. If the homeschool parent/teacher is marginal in her abilities, then the state should really offer help, such as curriculum and classes and coaching to help her to do better. It is far less expensive for the state to nurture this woman's efforts along than it is to fight her, throw her in jail and then put the kids in public schools. The state saves a ton of money every time someone homeschools their kid. You'd think they'd encourage this, especially since the evidence is that homeschool kids do better than public school kids.

Rather than nipping at this woman's heels the mob should be truly afraid of the jack-booted thugs in state government whose agenda is such that they see her as a threat and will attack her so.

45 posted on 10/21/2002 4:18:11 PM PDT by Red Jones
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To: Truant Mom
This is so frightening. God help this family. Amen.
46 posted on 10/21/2002 4:22:31 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: SERE_DOC
and it's people like you who bend over & drop trou just because the "authorities" say you have to.

Do you have a picture on your driver's license? If so, pull up your pants, oh mighty patriot.

47 posted on 10/21/2002 5:51:34 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Aquinasfan
Thanks for pushing Gatto. I just clicked on your link to his "Underground History".

Think I'll spend some time reading his book there. He has an enormous story to tell.

48 posted on 10/21/2002 8:51:24 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: AppyPappy
FREEDOM stick in your craw??
49 posted on 10/21/2002 9:10:54 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500
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To: AppyPappy
"oh mighty patriot."

Thanks spineless one, BTW I match my dd214 to what you got any day.

I noticed your proclivity to the homosexual life style I would suggest you are in the wrong site maybe you will be welcomed at DU...

Moron

50 posted on 10/21/2002 9:23:18 PM PDT by SERE_DOC
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To: AppyPappy
Basically, by your comments on this thread, you are anti-freedom, pro-big government. How quaint.
51 posted on 10/21/2002 9:56:25 PM PDT by Mordoch
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To: southern rock
I hate the continued use of sarcasm in our threads. NO, children do not belong to the state, parents alone have custody, responsibility and say over their lives. NO, islam is not a religion of peace. Sarcastic comments only reinforce lies, let's make our point by calling things what they are.
52 posted on 10/21/2002 9:58:14 PM PDT by Hila
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To: Truant Mom
I couldn't read anymore after reading the part about her daughter in the woods during squirrel hunting season. Oh my gosh..what a nightmare. :(
53 posted on 10/21/2002 10:02:53 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: herewego
Those damned state thugs just insist on pushing State
sponsored socialism on all the kids ala, local indoctrination station .
Even the peeps on a "conservative" site insist on guvmint
control. That should be the message to all homeschoolers that they are doing the RIGHT thing.


54 posted on 10/21/2002 10:28:33 PM PDT by herewego
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To: secretagent
He has an enormous story to tell.

He sure does. Gatto's done his homework and he's a voice in the wilderness.

55 posted on 10/22/2002 4:43:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Mordoch
Basically, by your comments on this thread, you are anti-freedom, pro-big government. How quaint.

And by your comments, we know you are a socialist who longs for Hillary as President.

56 posted on 10/22/2002 4:44:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: SERE_DOC
I noticed your proclivity to the homosexual life style I would suggest you are in the wrong site maybe you will be welcomed at DU...

I notice you drool when you see Hillary on TV. Sick.

57 posted on 10/22/2002 4:45:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"They are probably humilitated by their parents antics."

I'm sure some time in county lock-up for mom and dad will give the kids the self esteem they desire.
58 posted on 10/22/2002 4:57:03 AM PDT by Liberty Teeth
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To: I still care
Interesting reads. We have a problem in our county with an overzealous DSS tearing families apart. The local media is on this agency and a lot of dirty laundry is being exposed.
59 posted on 10/22/2002 5:00:03 AM PDT by Liberty Teeth
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To: AppyPappy
"You guys are the ones who get burned time and time again by attaching your star to these paranoid nutcases, not me"

The media often picks up on the 'nutcases' while ignoring or never hearing about the folks who work with the authorities. I gotta tell you that the stories coming out in my county are frightening.

The nutcase stories are the ones the leftists drag out and prop up as examples of what they are dealing with.
60 posted on 10/22/2002 5:10:38 AM PDT by Liberty Teeth
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