"Police Arrest Witness Accused Of Lying To Sniper Investigators"

NBC affiliate WRC-TV News Ch. 4 ^ | October 18, 2002 | WRC-TV News Ch. 4 / Associated Press

[TomB]

Perhaps, my FRiend, but it's also amazing how often FReepers jump to the proper conclusion...MUD

Often? Perhaps, but only because by post 100, those threads have put forth EVERY POSSIBLE theory short of UFO's.

(Although I've seen those blamed too.)

[VaMarVet]

Even though it does describe the classic profile of such a shooter.

Gus - I have been following this quite closely as the first Spotsy shooting occured where we shop and my wife was just a mile away during the Four-Mile-Fork shooting. Our kids have been in "lock down" with no outside events for almost two weeks now. The point being here, again, is that I am following this closely and disagree with your point that the "angry white male" theory is the classic profile of "such a shooter". While not discounting that it could be an angry white male, there is no precedence here. This shooter (possibly accompanied by accomplices) does not fit the profile. So where does that leave us?

[VaMarVet]

by post 100, those threads have put forth EVERY POSSIBLE theory short of UFO's.

This is a discussion board. I would submit that the media is not doing much better - after about a hundred interviews with "had-been experts" and talking heads - they pretty much cover the full spectrum of possibilities. Moreover, as each theory is posted on FR it is open to immediate "peer review and criticism". That would be refreshing to see on the tube. The tin foil theories here are typically shot down fairly quickly or ignored. If ignored - which many often do as it is futile to argue with those types - you get a "silent majority" - thereby negating any "counting of posts" that might reflect on what FReepers at large believe. Just some thoughts...

[Hail Caesar]

Dave - The "angry white male" theory or any of the others posted here on FR are NOT mine. I have merely pointed out one of the most common theories that have been discussed all over the media since day one.

However, regarding this particular criminal case, I find it rather amusing that several of those on FR who were so quick to profile men of Middle Eastern descent are now whining about the fact that profiles discussed more similar to their own personal demographics are being used by law enforcement to harass their own, so to speak.

And no, this is not a personal slam against you or any of my other friends here on FR. However, I have noticed that some people here on FR chose to criticize my style or parse my words in order to attempt to debunk any of my postings that they do not have a valid counter-argument to.

I just hate it when conservatives use the same style of discussion that James Carville and Paul Begala do best - that is resort to ad hominems when all else fails. And this has been one my own personal beefs here all along.

I realize these are very tense times we are living in, especially here in the DC area, but, all this scapegoating crap being flung out all over the airwaves and even on FR can be rather annoying, to say the least. And I am NOT talking about you or yours.

Okay, rant off now. Peace.

[VaMarVet]

Gus - my point was not about FR - the "classic white male" theory does not fit THIS SHOOTER's MO. Not saying it might not be - but this event does not fall into a "nice neat category".

[VaMarVet]

One more thing before I run off to my son's baeball game (AAU not school - at least some of us are going about our normal routine and not cowering - a goal of terrorism), you have parsed before here on FR. Hey, I have always enjoyed our face-to-face discussions, sometimes you take a different approach when you post here.

[Peter Libra]

Welcome to the club.

[Hail Caesar]

"...I have been following this quite closely as the first Spotsy shooting occured where we shop and my wife was just a mile away during the Four-Mile-Fork shooting. Our kids have been in "lock down" with no outside events for almost two weeks now."

As you probably guessed, Dave, the community (especially the school) situations here in MoCo have been quite horrendous since day one of the shootings. As you also know, the many (volunteer) leadership hats I wear in this community has resulted in a lot of tugging from all "sides" in the hate violence, RKBA and political debates. I will continue to maintain a low public profile so as not to compromise any other positive measures that local LEO and others are taking now. However, I will continue to give the highest priority to RKBA, my local community and political committments, over that of all other non-personal agendas.

Please keep up the great work you are doing down there and let's all continue to work together with our local LEOs to help catch these murderer(s) without further contributing to the erosion of our civil and constitutional rights as Americans. Hope to see you out there on the streets again (time allowing)!

[Hail Caesar]

"My God. The awesome power of political correctness- even thou O Caesar....."

Why thank you, I take that as a compliment. :-)

[Hail Caesar]

As I've made clear in earlier posts, this shooter MAY very well have come from the Middle East originally. He MAY be Arab or even Israeli. However, NONE of the facts so far even point in that direction. Though at this point the probability of some anti-Middle Eastern zealot planting fake evidence pointing to Al Qaeda or any other politically incorrect organization has increased tenfold since the shootings started. And we all know about the bogus blaming of "Muslim terrorists" for last year's anthrax attacks now, too.

I have no underlying cultural or political agenda that would knee-jerk me into any false conclusions here. However, I do honestly believe that the real terrorist doing these dastardly murders is probably some home grown professional, regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin. Isn't that what "equal opportunity" here is all about? /sarcasm off.