Mandela picks Iraq over U.S.

Does Nellie mandelly own a Horse? A prized racehorse?

Mandela has uttered stronger and stronger statements critical of Bush. Originally he attempted to telephone the U.S. President to communicate his views

Why exactly should President Bush care what Nelson Mandela thinks about Iraq?

fact 1......No one in America gives a chit what madolo says

2 Mandloin has no impact on the self defense of America

3 when the UN had white leaders they had brains.....

4. The UN has nothing to do with us, and as far as I'm concerned you can take it out of NY and set it up in the lobby of some hotel in South America and we would never miss it or need it again,.

some guys, like the hillbilly, think they have clout...it's true some mobsters do have clout, but they have much more class than this clown.....

When I was young there was a name for a guy that acted like this

Mandela picks Iraq over U.S.

I'll take the U.S. and give 446 points. I figger it's over by half time. We played little league last time, - mercy rule 'cause they were down by 10 runs.

Nope. South Africans should have offed him 30 years ago.

Originally he attempted to telephone the U.S. President to communicate his views, but Bush did not take his calls

I find this line hilarious. I can just see Bush telling his secretary "If that's Mandela on the phone again, tell him I'm in the can!"

Nelson Mandela, feels very comfortable and at home with murderers as Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, Robert Mugabe, and every other communist African tyrant, birds of a feather flock together. Mr. Mandela is not morally qualified to criticize President Bush after condoning and supporting the criminal records of those tyrants.

Furthermore, Nelson’s wife Winnie revealed their true color and those of the ANC at Munsieville, on April 13, 1986, when she said: "With our boxes of matches and our necklaces ["necklacing:" a torture in which a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze], we shall liberate this country." (South African Digest, April 18, 1986, p. 324)

WINNIE MANDELA'S NECKLACING

Winnie Mandela has been tied to kidnappings and assaults, as well as disappearances that took place. She also has been quoted as saying, "With our matches and our necklaces, we will liberate South Africa," referring to the practice of placing gasoline-soaked tires around the necks of those some anti-apartheid activists consider "traitors", and lighting them on fire.

Unlike most of their counterparts in the United States, the progressive movement in south Africa refused to keep silent in the face of Mandela's brutality.

In fact, the first reports of the assaults and killing were published by an anti-apartheid newspaper, not the press controlled by or supportive of the government. Anti-apartheid organizations in south africa, such as the Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU) and the United Democratic Front (UDF), were quick to condemn such violence on the part of Mandela.

The UDF/COSATU statement read, in part, "We are outraged at Mrs Mandela's obvious complicity in the recent abductions and assault of Stompie.... We are outraged by the reign of terror that the team [Mandela's body guards, also known as the Mandela United Soccer Club or the Mandela Football Club] has been associated with. Not only is Mrs Mandela associated with the team, in fact, the team is her own creation. We are of the view that Mrs Mandela has abused the trust and confidence which she has enjoyed over the years.... The Mass Democratic Movement hereby distances itself from Mrs Mandela and her actions."

This rebuke from her former allies in the anti-apartheid movement came only five months after another challenge to her image as a well-liked opposition leader. In September 1988, Mandela's home in Soweto was burned down by local "comrades," apparently in retaliation for a sexual assault against a student leader by members of the "football club." (Apparently, real sexual abuse is acceptable to Mandela and her friends, as long as it is heterosexual.)

The attack on Mandela's home appears to have been prompted as well by ill-feeling generated by Mandela's rather comfortable lifestyle, which includes ownership of a Mercedes, in the midst of the widespread poverty in Soweto.

According to a source in the anti-apartheid labor movement, the public condemnation of Mandela by COSATU and UDF was prompted by pressure on the part of Soweto residents fed up with the activities of Mandela and her associates. Prior to the killing of Stompie Seipei, opposition among other anti-apartheid activists to Mandela's thugs had led both Oliver Tambo and Nelson Mandela to call on her to disband the club.

Thomas Sowell discussed the mindset of Mandela's supporters: "Long before the present ugly episode, Winnie Mandela was justifying the hideous practice of burning political enemies alive. How could anyone have romanticized such a person? Like too many other issues, South Africa is not approached as a serious question about the fate of millions of flesh-and-blood human beings, but as a symbolic issue providing yet another backdrop for our own moral preening. Those who are preoccupied with showing that they are on the side of the angels are quick to find angels to side with. Winnie Mandela was just one of those angels."

Just as many American leftists once ignored credible evidence that progressive leaders like Lenin and Castro were brutalizing and killing dissidents, most leftists today continue to fawn over Mandela, despite the fact that even many of her former allies have seen her for the bully she is and have spoken out against her. People who are serious about liberation, sexual and otherwise, need to have a consistent commitment to personal freedom and be willing to speak out whenever people are unjustly attacked, whoever the attacker may be. Hypocritically covering-up and apologizing for the excesses of progressives puts into serious doubt the left's stated commitment to a free society.

Right on the mark ! The "Liberal" mindset might be defined as : Black is beautiful; Hispanic is sacred ; Native American is sacred. Orientals and Whites are judged by how far Left they are : oppressed masses, or right-wing thugs.

Mr. Mandela might still be sitting in prison if America didn't turn its attention towards apartheid in South Africa and free the majority of people. Why doesn't Mr. Mandela want that same effort undertaken on behalf of the oppressed people of Iraq?

-PJ