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Schools Threatened By Terrorists
DOD Early Bird Brief ^ | 10/4/02

Posted on 10/04/2002 9:14:57 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: dd5339
Seniors United Supporting the Second Amendment has long endorsed the Israeli model of protecting schools by having armed parents and grandparents guard all schools. After Colinbine SUSSA offered scholarships in to a firearm training course for parents and grandparents at the first government school that instituted this common sense safety measure. None applied for the scholarships. (See our "Safe Schools Initiative" at http://www.sussa.org/activism)

Now ,with the added threat from these cowardly bastards, it is imperative that all schools implement this proven safety measure. Any victim harmed by the refusal of a school or school district to adopt the only proven method of keeping schools safe from attack should contact SUSSA for help securing a trial lawyer to go after the people who recklessly left the children unprotected.
21 posted on 10/04/2002 10:14:15 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Williams
Yep. That's the scary part - "they" don't understand the level of rage that will confront them if a school and its treasure is destroyed. Nor do "they" care.
22 posted on 10/04/2002 10:16:35 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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To: Frank_Discussion
Yep. That's the scary part - "they" don't understand the level of rage that will confront them if a school and its treasure is destroyed. Nor do "they" care.

We are a society of 250 million people, armed to the teeth. There would be no way for the police to protect American Muslims. It would be societal suicide on their part.

Looks like them "Religion of Peace" Muslims better come out of hiding and help us get these bastards first.

23 posted on 10/04/2002 11:03:25 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: pabianice
Can we afford to KEEP schools "gun-free", ie, disarmed and defenseless?
24 posted on 10/04/2002 11:11:39 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: pabianice; dd5339
Here's the link to the wash-times article:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021004-92332157.htm
25 posted on 10/04/2002 12:14:37 PM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: dd5339
Good job. Get into the minds of the terrorists to know how to obliterate them. Sane peoplle would say "who in hell would go into a school shooting kids as a terrorist act", but in their minds, they have already rationalized it: "The infidels support the jooooooze who bomb innocent Palestinian kids every day, so we will take it to their heartland and make them cry." This is their arabic mindset of 'payback'. Goes back thousands of years and is in the blood.
26 posted on 10/04/2002 12:18:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Cachelot; All
Far from "exploding", the American public would probably snivel a bit about how much bad karma America has accrued by not helping the arabs delete Israel from the map. And then they'd start looking for a synagogue to burn.

The solipsism-begotten bigotry in this statement pushes the poster beyond the realm of pedestrian imbecility into the realm of blood libel. But rather than press the abuse button, I shall merely highlight the libelous and bigotted nature of Cachelot's post.

To begin with, neither did my father and father-in-law seek out sanctuaries of worship to bomb in retaliation for the bombings of Pearl Harbor, nor have I, nor have any papists of my acquaintance, sought out mosques (or synagogues, in your tortured reasoning) to bomb in retaliation for the multiple bombings of the WTC by radical moslem culture warriors -- in which children perished in greater numbers than in any school attack on record, to my knowledge. We have striven to throw off some of the fanaticism that was an unfortunate part of an ancient inheritance.

More than 100 years ago George Santayana gave expression to an insight that shines light deeply into Cachelot's post:

"...Throughout its tranformations, however, Christianity remains indebted to the Jews not only for its founder, but for the nucleus of its dogma...

...What was condemnable in the Jews was not that they asserted the divinity of their law, for that they did with substantial sincerity and truth. Their crime is to have denied the equal prerogative of other nations' laws and deities, for this they did, not from critical insight or intellectual scruples, but out of pure bigotry, conceit, and stupidity. They did not want other nations to have a god. The moral government of the world, with which the Jews are praised for having first asserted, did not mean for them that nature shows a generic benevolence toward life and reason wherever they arise. Such a moral government might have been conceived by a pagan philosopher and was not taught in Israel until, selfishness having been outgrown, the birds and the heathen were also placed under divine protection. What the moral government of things meant when it was first asserted was that Jehovah expressly directed the destinies of heathen nations and the course of nature itself for the final glorification of the Jews.

No civilised people had ever had such pretensions before. They all recognized one another's religions, if not as literally true (for some familiarity is needed to foster that illusion), certainly as more or less sacred and significant. Had the Jews not rendered themselves odious to mankind by this arrogance, and taught Christians and Moslems the same fanaticism, the nature of religion would not have been falsified among us and we should not now have so much to apologize for and to retract......"

The suggestion that most grieving American fathers would rush from their child's broken body in search of a synagogue to burn, the bigotry expressed against my ancestors, me, and my posterity by Cachelot's post is an affront I could not let pass.

PS, is it truly wise to blood-libel those who are as responsible as any for the continuing existence of Israel as a nation state in its present locale?

27 posted on 10/05/2002 12:53:54 PM PDT by SwimmingUpstream
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To: SwimmingUpstream
Had the Jews not rendered themselves odious to mankind by this arrogance...

Hmmmmmmmmmm... disjointed, hysterical and toroughly strange.

is an affront I could not let pass.

Feel free to run your ffront into the nearest wall.

PS, is it truly wise to blood-libel those who are as responsible as any for the continuing existence of Israel as a nation state in its present locale?

Luckily, you are not responsible for Israel's continued existence ;). Other factors, such as Israel's nuclear forces (the third or fourth largest in the world), will see to that.

28 posted on 10/05/2002 1:45:06 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Luckily, you are not responsible for Israel's continued existence ;). Other factors, such as Israel's nuclear forces (the third or fourth largest in the world), will see to that.

You think America's assistance has had nothing whatever to do with Israel's ability to build a nuclear arsenal? If you read what I wrote carefully you will see that I did not state that Americans were responsible for the continuing existence of Israel in its present locale, but rather that Americans are as responsible as any others for that continuing existence.

Your mis-characterization of my post is intellectually dishonest.

29 posted on 10/05/2002 2:18:49 PM PDT by SwimmingUpstream
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To: SwimmingUpstream
You think America's assistance has had nothing whatever to do with Israel's ability to build a nuclear arsenal?

Actually, I know so. The first vital component in the Israeli reactor program was the Deuterium, which came not from the US but from Rjukan, Norway. Ironically, that plant also supplied Deuterium to America, I believe. The rest of the key components came from France. The memory of the war was still fresh, and the countries that later became EU had not yet re-Nazified (and not yet been overrun by the Nazi wave of islamists).

You ought to be aware of this, of course. So please arrange an overhaul of your own intellectual honesty before ramming both your feet down your own throat again ;).

30 posted on 10/05/2002 2:40:29 PM PDT by Cachelot
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31 posted on 10/05/2002 2:44:25 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Cachelot
[SwimmingUpstream] You think America's assistance has had nothing whatever to do with Israel's ability to build a nuclear arsenal?

[Cachelot]Actually, I know so. The first vital component in the Israeli reactor program was the Deuterium, which came not from the US but from Rjukan, Norway. Ironically, that plant also supplied Deuterium to America, I believe. The rest of the key components came from France. The memory of the war was still fresh, and the countries that later became EU had not yet re-Nazified (and not yet been overrun by the Nazi wave of islamists).

Your effort at refutation fails, because it notes only some scientific contributions of others to Israel's reactor program, but does nothing to establish that none of the money or military support given to Israel by the US had a role in Israel's obtaining any of the items to which you rather simple-mindedly attempt to show comprise all that has gone in to building the NUCLEAR ARSENAL that you assert Israel possesses today.

32 posted on 10/05/2002 3:01:55 PM PDT by SwimmingUpstream
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To: SwimmingUpstream
Sigh. Your effort at claiming the old and shameless line that Israel owes every success to America is just about what I expected from you. You see it touted at every racist forum, in the "America first" circles, and in even more unsavoury settings. It basically boils down to "The Jooos stole our brains". And our precious bodily fluids, i suppose :).

Have a nice day.

*plonk*

33 posted on 10/05/2002 4:11:12 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Your effort at claiming the old and shameless line that Israel owes every [bold by SwimmingUpstream for clarification purposes] success to America...

Every success? Another resort by you to intellectual dishonesty -- namely, mis-characterizing my posts.

Insofar as you adduced no substantive argument or reply in your last reply, and insofar as you continue to mis-characerize, I bid you adieu.

34 posted on 10/05/2002 4:37:53 PM PDT by SwimmingUpstream
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To: pabianice
You know, I have much less faith than you do in Americans these days.

Its just over a year after the 9-11 atrocity, and by my scorecard, the majority of the citizenry has fallen asleep again. Not taking elevated terror threats seriously. Questioning and doubting their country's moral authority to protect themselves. Hand wringing and media orgys - celebrating feeling sorry for ourselves. That's not the makings of a champion.

Organized attacks at schools would be an atrocity, for sure. Followed by lots of tough talk. Hand wringing. Then doubt. "What if we attack them and they get angrier at us???" "If we attack, they will attack us again!" "Look, if we do nothing, I figure there is a 40% chance of them launching another attack. If we do something, they will definitely attack!! So lets do nothing!!! I'm scared!"

Please don't be mad at me, but I am starting to think that America doesn't have what it takes - the resolve and strength - to fight this campaign. The result will be more terrorist incidents, of course, probably cluminating in something grotesque, cinematic, and horribly destructive.

NYC and DC, I loved you!

Somebody cheer me up, if you can!!! I don't like thinking like this but I can't help it. God bless.
35 posted on 10/05/2002 4:47:32 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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