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Owning Even More Of The Night [Color Night Vision Goggles]
Armed Forces Journal International ^ | August 2002 | John G. Roos

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:15:17 PM PDT by VaBthang4

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1 posted on 10/01/2002 6:15:17 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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2 posted on 10/01/2002 6:15:59 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
color would be sweet, no more green-vision
3 posted on 10/01/2002 6:16:17 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: VaBthang4
Neat.
4 posted on 10/01/2002 6:29:22 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Texas_Jarhead
color would be sweet, no more green-vision

Wouldn't make any difference to me - I don't see color right anyway. What would interest me would be better reproduction of shade intensity (dark colors look darker gray/green and light colors lighter shades). (And, prescription eyepieces in my 3rd generation night vision binocs so I don't have to fumble with my glasses to use them at night).

5 posted on 10/01/2002 6:34:32 PM PDT by strela
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To: strela
What would interest me would be better reproduction of shade intensity

Also less intense brightness to make the transition to normal light more fluid. Of course I am speaking from a G1 night vision perspective.

My wife has banned ANY new toys for the forseeable future...LOL.
6 posted on 10/01/2002 6:53:28 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: VaBthang4
Night Vision is a good thing, a VERY good thing!
7 posted on 10/01/2002 6:55:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: AdA$tra
Also less intense brightness to make the transition to normal light more fluid.

Good point. I'd like an adjustment for that on the control panel - its pretty jarring going from being in the dark to all that light. And, it takes me about 30 minutes to get my night vision back even after just a peek through the binocs. (Maybe put some red gels on the objective lenses?)

Of course I am speaking from a G1 night vision perspective.

I'm speaking from a "Damn, another coyote's trying to get in the chicken yard again - hand me the 30-30" perspective myself ;)

8 posted on 10/01/2002 7:09:49 PM PDT by strela
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To: VaBthang4
Sounds pretty cool. A definite improvement on green static.
9 posted on 10/01/2002 7:15:37 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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10 posted on 10/01/2002 7:29:56 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: VaBthang4
Color is cool, but for decades now, the push has been to increase low light level sensitivity and for good reason. Lack of sensitivity has been the principle handicap to NVG.

Information about any loss in sensitivity due to going to a color system is precisely what Jones left out of this article. Color vs. threshold sensitivity is a natural consequence of the physics of the sensors involved and that tradeoff can sometimes be quite serious. For example, in the human eye the rods (black & white sensors) are 400 times more sensitive than the cones (color sensors).

I'd be damn sure that I truly needed the color system before I would switch to it. Someone's life may depend on it.

Regards,

Boot Hill

11 posted on 10/02/2002 1:04:23 AM PDT by Boot Hill
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To: Boot Hill
I'd hope it would work both ways. Present a picture in monochrome in extreme dark situations, and turn on the color when the light is sufficient.
12 posted on 10/02/2002 2:17:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Good thought, but depending on how they implemented the color scheme, switching back to black & white may not return you to the best possible black & white sensitivity. TANSTAAFL works in engineering, too.

Regards,

Boot Hill

13 posted on 10/02/2002 2:25:59 AM PDT by Boot Hill
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To: Boot Hill
I'm thinking two sensors. One specialized for monochrome, the other for color; best of both. To avoid distracting the user, it wouldn't change mode with shifts of illumination, until the user hit a button. There might be a little blinking green light at the corner of the eyepiece to indicate the illumination is sufficient for color, and a red one to advise switching back to monochrome.
14 posted on 10/02/2002 2:48:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There could be applications where that system would be the best possible way to go. Keep in mind the likely downsides though: weight, cost, power consumption, size. These can be minimized, but not ignored.

Regards,

Boot Hill

15 posted on 10/02/2002 3:22:04 AM PDT by Boot Hill
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Can any of you guys give a novice night scope wanna-be owning Freeper a source for purchasing night vison stuff?

Just for hobby purposes...Thanks in advance.
16 posted on 10/02/2002 8:51:00 AM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: VaBthang4
There's also a USAF wide-vision unit under development that should give pilots better periphial vision than the present units with which the field of view is considerably limited.

Combine the wider view with the colour display, and they'd really have something.

-archy-/-

17 posted on 10/02/2002 9:39:46 AM PDT by archy
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To: Johnny Shear
Can any of you guys give a novice night scope wanna-be owning Freeper a source for purchasing night vision stuff?

I've got a continuing interest in the material designed and produced in the former Soviet Union, all of which is at least a generation behind comprable US-built NVDs, and generally isn't worth the additional hassle and lessened capabilities despite admittedly attractive prices...sometimes, unless your requirements are VERY specific and limited.

But one of the best in the business is: Excalibur Electro Optics. In particular, check out their *helpful info* section for a good overview of the subject and equipment available, and its capabilities.

-archy-/-


18 posted on 10/02/2002 9:50:15 AM PDT by archy
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archy,

do you (or anyone else) know of any good long-eye-relief models that can handle the increased recoil of a magnum handgun (454Casull)? I found one model, a gen3, that was around $2500, and that was with no bells and whistles. I could get by with gen1 sensitivity, but gotta have the eye relief and the shock tolerance.

19 posted on 10/02/2002 11:04:52 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: archy
You can own an Infrared Sniper Scope for your rifle... provided you are a FED. Go to HERE and check out the equipment. Man would it be nice on a G3.

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This particular scope is a MONOCROME IR scope. Meaning that you can only see GREEN. But, notice how the body is lit up by the body heat.


However, I myself prefer the color highlighed scopes. Now these are some high tech pieces of work! Put the scope on your .50cal and target in the dark dark nite.

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Check out all kinds of thermal imaged pictures at HERE.

20 posted on 10/02/2002 11:17:51 AM PDT by vannrox
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