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NBC'S BROKAW REPORTS DEMS SCURRY TO GET TORI REPLACEMENT A "FIASCO" AND "CHAOS"

Posted on 10/01/2002 4:30:04 PM PDT by Liz

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To: rwfromkansas; Howlin; Liz; Mudboy Slim
Report now coming out that a judge has ordered no more military ballots to be mailed.

The current election is under way. I guess they could stop EVERYTHING in New Jersey and begin counting those 51 days - starting today! That would put New Jersey's election around November 20th. (I'm surprised the RATS haven't come up with this themselves...)

41 posted on 10/01/2002 5:32:15 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: txrangerette
An honest court will say that they had a Democrat to vote for and simply chose otherwise.

-PJ

42 posted on 10/01/2002 5:33:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: Libloather
That would put New Jersey's election around November 20th.

Wouldn't that violate Federal law? Er, not that that has ever bothered the Dems before.

43 posted on 10/01/2002 5:34:36 PM PDT by The G Man
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To: Shermy
I believe the final straw was the confirmation late last week of a convenience store security tape with Torricelli and the union boss intimidating Chang.

Thuggery on grainy black and white video is not the stuff political comebacks are made of.

What the hell is going on the the Dems? It's like the edifices are all falling and crashing into each other.

First insane, incoherent, out of control speeches by 2 leading members (Gore and Daschle) on consecutive days.

Kennedy and Byrd then amplify the stupidity and reconfirm their irrelevancy.

Then other prominent members (Bonior) offer aid and comfort on Iraqi soil the following week. McDermott overtly sides with Saddam over Bush.

Then, the next day an uncontrollable corruption scandal forces out another Democratic leader (Toricelli). One who had given a national Democratic position speech over the weekend!

Meanwhile, a major segment of the Democratic leadership is now in direct opposition to the two-thirds of Americans who took them at their very words of just a few years ago that Saddam was an unacceptable danger (Clinton, Gore, Daschle, Byrd). Now after 4 years of unsupervised acquisitions, Saddam, they argue is no longer a threat!

These people have lost it.

They were just defeated in a Presidential election against all historical odds. They are about to lose seats in both houses against all historical odds, and in a year with many more Republican seats up for grabs!

The current political dynamic appears to have the individual leaders in a race to the left, which is disastrous for the party as a whole. It's like a 'runaway greenhouse effect' -- a positive feedback process between overheated liberal rhetoric, and simmering anxious liberal outrage.

Can you just imgaine their response when Bush starts appointing judges with Talent in office on November 3? Watch out for spontaneous combustion.

44 posted on 10/01/2002 5:37:52 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: The G Man
Wouldn't that violate Federal law?

They're gonna violate something! Might as well be this!

How big of a mess would they have on their hands if they told everyone to write-in their vote? Now, imagine Palm Beach doing it...

45 posted on 10/01/2002 5:39:12 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: cynicom
My take is that Lautenburg (sp) will run and win, serve two years and then "someone" else will be appointed after he resigns.

After thinking about it for a while, I've come to the conclusion that the NJ Supremes will most likely not allow the Torch's name to be replaced with someone else. It's called "precedence". Unless they can come up with some peculiarity about this specific election, if they allow the DemocRATs to prevail, every time in the future, when a candidate is losing, he can quit and get replaced by someone else. That's a nightmare and I doubt that the NJ Supremes would want that.

That would leave the DemocRATs with one of two solutions:

1. The Torch resigns the Senate and McGreevy names a replacement. As far as I know, there is no guarantee that the replacement could get on the ballot (see above) and the replacement's term would end when Torricelli's ends - January 2003.

2. The Torch stays on the ballot and tells people that, if he wins, he will resign immediately and then McGreevy can name anyone to serve the six year term. The downside - can they trust the Torch? And would the sheeple of NJ buy into it?

If the law means anything, the DemocRATs seem to be screwed.

46 posted on 10/01/2002 5:40:29 PM PDT by jackbill
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47 posted on 10/01/2002 5:41:42 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: SBprone
Why is it so hard to believe they just screwed up?

That's my conclusion. Look at how the dems tried to float two lesser lights for the job who refused,(another embarassment) and now it looks like 78 year old former senator Lautenberg might get the shot.

And to further complicate things the Torch may not want to give his campaign money to Lautenburg,who does not like Torrecelli..

Lautenberg could have some family resistance to another run, if he has to fund it himself. I'm sure Lautenberg's heirs don't want him spending their inheritance on the campaign. At 78 years of age, Lautenberg is not likely to get it back. Don't run Frank; think of the family. - Tom

48 posted on 10/01/2002 5:45:00 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: rwfromkansas
"Report now coming out that a judge has ordered no more military ballots to be mailed."

Isn't there a date deadline in statute in relation to mailing military ballots as well? Are going to ignore this law too?

49 posted on 10/01/2002 5:45:07 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
I am sure there is, but I do not know what it is.
50 posted on 10/01/2002 5:46:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
They're going to once again deny the military men their right to vote???
51 posted on 10/01/2002 5:47:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: rwfromkansas
I heard Lautenberg had demands like having his name on the ballot, being given seniority status, and not using his own money... Are any of these true?
52 posted on 10/01/2002 5:47:41 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Capt. Tom
Brit Hume said that Lautenburg has already said he is NOT going to foot the bill for this.

The plot thickens.

53 posted on 10/01/2002 5:48:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
It looks like it to me... I mean isn't that why the date is there because it takes longer for the military to vote?
54 posted on 10/01/2002 5:48:39 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Political Junkie Too
Yes, Rush said "an honest court" can't
rule for the Dems.
55 posted on 10/01/2002 5:49:11 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Howlin
Well, they aren't mailing any more ballots.
56 posted on 10/01/2002 5:49:14 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Liz
Think it was Will Rogers....

Will Rogers never met Bill Clinton.

57 posted on 10/01/2002 5:49:47 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Tacis
I agree the media is in it up to their elbows. Read Bill Sammons (sp) excellent book on the election. He goes over this in excrutiating detail. Every Gore state was called on the flimsiest of evidence, many had to be recalled for Bush. No Bush state was called until it was virtually 100% vote complete. It could not have been random. Also all the networks dropped the AP count (an important backup second set of data) in favor of only the unified count by their election joint venture, which made many mistakes.

The NY Times at least comes out for election fraud on their editorial page, so you can see where they stand directly.
58 posted on 10/01/2002 5:50:01 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: rwfromkansas
"Well, they aren't mailing any more ballots."

So I guess you have to reside in the continental US to have a choice?


59 posted on 10/01/2002 5:50:44 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Looks like it...and if a crazy judge has his way, not even then...:(
60 posted on 10/01/2002 5:51:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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