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Experts Skeptical Of Reports On Al-Qaeda-Baghdad Link
USA Today ^
| September 27, 2002
| Barbara Slavin and John Diamond
Posted on 09/30/2002 9:51:35 AM PDT by rightwing2
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Several intelligence experts, including some within the U.S. government, expressed skepticism about the reports. A Pentagon official, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the new assertions an "exaggeration." Other intelligence experts said some of the charges appeared to be based on old information and that there was still no "smoking gun" connecting Iraq with the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States... Vince Cannistraro, former CIA counterterrorism chief... accused the Bush administration of overstating uncorroborated information from al-Qaeda detainees. "They're cooking the books," Cannistraro said.
Why does the Administration apparently feel the need to "exaggerate" their claims that Iraq is tied to 9-11 terrorists, resort to using uncorroberated terrorist sources and "cooking the books" if their rationale for invading Iraq is so solid? Why have they been doing the same thing in regards to Iraq's purported threat to America despite the fact that he is at best "several years away from developing nukes"..."even if left unconstrained" according to the most recent declassified summary of the CIA report on the Ballistic Missile Threat? No wonder six four star generals are denouncing plans to invade Iraq as an unnecessary, unwarranted and unwise diversion to America's just war on Islamicist terrorists. We should be bombing Iran, which has solid links to the training and arming of Al Queda 9-11 terrorists and which according to the State Department is the greatest state sponsor of terrorism for the last two years.
Iraq is a non-threat, non-issue to all unbiased observers. They may threaten tiny Kuwait and perhaps even Israel (which can defend itself and is yearning for the chance to nuke Baghdad), but they do not threaten the world's most powerful superpower--the United States of America. This plan for invasion is not about any Iraqi WMD threat which is very limited. It is not about any alleged Iraqi link to Al Queda which is somewhere between spotty and non-existant. It is not about the Administration playing politics as the Democraps have alleged and of which the Democraps themselves are guilty. Indeed, the President's crusade against Saddam is not based on any threat to our national security, but is essentially a very understandable personal vendetta against Saddam because he believes Saddam tried to kill his father in 1993.
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posted on
09/30/2002 9:54:17 AM PDT
by
Mo1
To: rightwing2
Why does the Administration apparently feel the need to "exaggerate" their claims that Iraq is tied to 9-11 terrorists, resort to using uncorroberated terrorist sources and "cooking the books" if their rationale for invading Iraq is so solid? Well, look at who's making the charges: anonymous sources and former counterterror guy who's been out of the game for 15 years.
And look at the huge spate of such stories on the eve of Bush's proposed resolution on Iraq.
This is politics, rw2. Democrat politics, from the smell of it.
And you seem to be falling for it.
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posted on
09/30/2002 9:55:28 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: rightwing2
Why are you taking a USA Today report from an unnamed "expert" as gospel? I'll tell you something about experts. For every expert one side can come up with, the other side can come up with an expert to say the exact opposite.
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posted on
09/30/2002 9:57:39 AM PDT
by
alnick
To: rightwing2
because he believes Saddam tried to kill his father in 1993 Nah, I don't believe that for a second.
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posted on
09/30/2002 9:57:40 AM PDT
by
riri
To: rightwing2
I see that Iraq is a threat. Of course I'm "biased" I love America and want to see all of her enemies defeated!!!
To: rightwing2; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah
Iraq is a non-threat, non-issue to all unbiased observers.In other words, all whose biases coincide with rightwing2's.
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:07:09 AM PDT
by
dighton
To: dighton; aculeus; general_re
Why does the Administration apparently feel the need to "exaggerate" their claims that Iraq is tied to 9-11 terrorists, resort to using uncorroberated terrorist sources... Like these?
Several intelligence experts, including some within the U.S. government, expressed skepticism about the reports. A Pentagon official, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the new assertions an "exaggeration." Other intelligence experts said some of the charges appeared to be based on old information and that there was still no "smoking gun" connecting Iraq with the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States...
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:17:12 AM PDT
by
Orual
To: rightwing2
"But several intelligence experts, including some within the U.S. government, expressed skepticism about the reports."
Probably the same experts who expressed skepticism about terrorists using planes to commit acts of terrorism.
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:17:20 AM PDT
by
mass55th
To: rightwing2
Experts? You mean like Barbra Streisand, Jim McDermott, Jesse Jackson and all other non-interested parties?
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:17:39 AM PDT
by
Maigret
To: adam stevens; dighton
I see that Iraq is a threat. Of course I'm "biased" I love America and want to see all of her enemies defeated!!!
As do I. I merely disagree with who poses the greatest threat to US national security and who we should be hitting first. I think terrorist enemy #1 is Iran which incidentally is far closer to developing nuclear missiles capable of hitting the US. According to several sources they already have nukes since they bought 17 tacnuke warheads from Kazakhstan in 1991. What about North Korea? Why doesn't the President bomb them. North Korea arguably pose the greatest nuclear missile threat to America with their nuclear tipped Taepodong 2 ICBMs and their very real and frightening threats to turn the US into a "sea of fire."
Could it be that the reason that the President has promised not to attack 9-11 terrorist supporting Iran and nuclear missile armed Communist North Korea is because he knows that they are already nuclear powers? Is that why he is appeasing North Korea with the largest annual taxpayer funded foreign aid giveaway of any country in Asia except Israel and is sponsoring the construction of two large new nuclear reactors so they can increase their nuclear warhead production from a few a year to sixty a year according to House Republican Policy Committee expert testimony? What about Communist China? Why does the Administration continue to appease Communist China with $115 billion in US taxpayer subsidized trade, aid, credits and dual-use military technology including supercomputers 50-100 times more powerful than those Clinton allowed to be sold to Communist China in 1998? Conservatives want to know. Compared to these other three countries, Iraq poses very little threat indeed.
To: Orual
Several intelligence experts, including some within the U.S. government, expressed skepticism about the reports. A Pentagon official, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the new assertions an "exaggeration." Other intelligence experts said some of the charges appeared to be based on old information and that there was still no "smoking gun" connecting Iraq with the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States...
These are exactly the sources which I cited as stating that the Administration was hyping up alleged and as yet unproven Al Queda links to Iraq. Thanks for backing me up. The uncorroberated terrorist sources I was referring to were the Al Queda prisoners saying that Iraq was training them in the hopes that a US invasion of Iraq would ignite the entire Muslim world against the US, which is exactly what may well happen if we do engage in an unprovoked invasion of Iraq.
To: rightwing2; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah
Compared to these other three countries, Iraq poses very little threat indeed.Duck, weave, squirt ink, change the subject, sing in a different key.
Iraq is a non-threat, non-issue to all nonbiased observers.
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:25:37 AM PDT
by
dighton
To: rightwing2
" A Pentagon official, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the new assertions an "exaggeration."
Peter Jennings aired an incredible hit piece on Bush, Cheney and Rummy the other night-even by ABC's standards. After showing clips of the three talking about a connection, their female correspondent, Martha Radish, quoted unnamed members of the intelligence "community" saying that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were liars. "There's nothing to the story,Peter."
To: r9etb
Well, look at who's making the charges: anonymous sources and former counterterror guy who's been out of the game for 15 years. And look at the huge spate of such stories on the eve of Bush's proposed resolution on Iraq. This is politics, rw2. Democrat politics, from the smell of it. And you seem to be falling for it.
I agree that the Democraps led by Dashill (sic) are playing politics with the Iraq issue and I have been the first to defend the President against accusations that he is doing the same, but there is no shortage of very persuasive arguments why the US should not engage in a risky diversion from its just war against Islamicist terrorists with an unprovoked invasion of Iraq. The fact that the Democraps are using these arguments does not make them any less valid. Six four star generals believe that the US would be foolish to engage in an ill-considered invasion of Iraq at this time. As an Army vet, those generals are all the sources I need to back me up against claims that I am somehow falling for liberal anti-war propaganda.
To: adam stevens
This is why Bush should stop with the political correctness. He doesn't need anyone's permission to defend us. He should have just struck.
Think about this for a moment: if we have to have a coalition of our enemies to take out another enemy, why is that so? Why the hell aren't we strong enough that we don't need their "help"?
To: r9etb
"But several intelligence experts, including some within the U.S. government, expressed skepticism about the reports." --
Same ones who always fiddle while terrorists plan their next attacks????
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posted on
09/30/2002 10:31:50 AM PDT
by
buffyt
To: rightwing2
I agree. We should attack all of our enemies!
To: rightwing2
A rare voice of reason on FR!
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