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Oxford University ^ | July-Sep 2002 | Ross Anderson

[Lizard_King]

click on the link to the full faq. the additions at the end are the most important addition since the last time I put this up, and well worth reading. Welcome to the New World Order...

[terilyn]

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[supercat]

One point I've not seen mentioned is that anyone who gets access to certain knowledge about the inner workings of these things will be able to create viruses and other malware that cannot be removed, or even detected, by users without access to that same priveleged knowedge. If that doesn't have scary national security implications I don't know what does.

[struwwelpeter]

This is huge! Is there any upside?

[Bobalu]

"Bill Gates has dreamed of finding a way to make the Chinese pay for software: Palladium could be the answer to his prayer"

The Chinese may have ideas of their own... like the new Chinese CPU called the 'Dragon Chip' I don't think we will see a Dragon with DRM inside.

It will be strange indeed if we have to use a CPU built by communists just so we can stay away from big brother.

If DRM is added to all US CPUs and if it is mandated by law that it be always locked on then I predict we will end up running Linux on a Dragon chip ... the Dragon will probably be made at a Taiwan Fab.

See this story on at the Peoples Daily
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200209/27/eng20020927_104011.shtml

[Orion78]

I LOVE YOU; PING!

[eno_]

Nobody can bring down Microsoft, except Microsoft. And they're doing a damn good job with this Palldium crap.

[rdb3]

IR on.

[justsomedude]

it's all about control.

[justsomedude]

See this story on at the Peoples Daily http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200209/27/eng20020927_104011.shtml

Propaganda is alive and well. And surprisingly transparent.

[rdb3]

Propaganda is alive and well. And surprisingly transparent.

Please explain.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Upside? Yes your average user will be able to communicate with others with the government being powerless to tap said communications. This is a potential big boon for right wing conspirators. :-)

[justsomedude]

Please explain.

The article cited is hype.

[rdb3]

The article cited is hype.

I gathered that this is what you meant, but I was asking you to be more specific. I'm not saying that the article is accurate. Just want to hear your take on it (besides it being just "hype").

[Thebaddog]

Is there a Linux system that would get around the proctoscope?

[justsomedude]

Just want to hear your take on it (besides it being just "hype").

I have no technical opinion -- it's not my bailiwick. I just picked up on all the superlatives and self congratulation and was impressed with the blatancy of propaganda. I have a rule that says hype=1/value.

[BlazingArizona]

This is huge! Is there any upside?

Higher sales for Apple.

[eno_]

If MS put the same effort into PKI for IM and mail as this, we COULD communicate securely.

[justsomedude]

Disclaimer: no personal information will be disclosed unless compelled by law....

[Lizard_King]

"The semi-conductor market in China's mainland will see an annual growth rate of 35 percent and a requirement of 17 billion chips before 2005. By the year of 2010, China is going to be the second large semi-conductor market of the world."
...according to a study this reporter was able to pull out of his a$$ after a night of hard drinking.

"Undergoing many a strict examination and test by the Computer Institution of the CAS and other authoritative organizations in China,"

...that is, after having its effectivity and functionality tested by the people that designed it and others whose livelihood depends on this thing being sold, we can say in all objectivity that it is flawless. What, would someone being coerced into working by an authoritarian government lie? C'mon! Get real...only you capitalist running dogs do that.



" the Dragon Chip is proved to be very sound in performance, steady and reliable in operation and utterly sufficient to meet the working requirement of the server and website."

Utterly sufficient. That's exciting stuff...if even in the press release bare adequacy is the best promise they can make, they must have some real stunners on their hands.

"Nevertheless, people are worried about it, thinking that though the "Dragon Chip" is designed on our own it will fall into the trap of foreign intellectual property rights provided it is compatible with that of the others. Dr Sun of the VIA Tech., the only chip-maker in the world able to match with the Intel was ever worried, since the old-brand manufacturers of the Intel CPU entered early into the market, applied and acquired many patent rights it was very difficult for the newcomers to make a detour away from these patents. Moreover, the Intel's monopoly of the market has made it to turn out an actual standard-maker in the market."

Translation from ingrish: It will be interesting to see how the foreign market reacts to having their technology ripped off, lumped together, and sold at a much lower price. Yeah, those naughty patent-holders...how dare they think of something first and then expect payment if someone else wishes to use their idea! The proletariat prevails!

"Therefore, it will not fall into the intellectual property right trap. "

Translation: We will continue to pour money into Democratic coffers to ensure that our blatant theft goes unpunished. Thank you, American sheeple, for your cooperation and submissiveness in this matter. Mind if we grab a few nuke blueprints as well?