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15kg Uranium Seized In Turkey-SMUGGLING for Islam!!(my title)
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| 09-28-02
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Posted on 09/28/2002 3:24:08 PM PDT by GRRRRR
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To: The Raven
Weapons grade, mind you !!! How much do they already have?
Depends on what they mean by weapons grade, if it has already been enriched then it is indeed serious but if it hasn't its nothing new. We already knew Saddam was working on acquiring the required components. If it is enriched it would have allowed him to skip several difficult steps but he would still be missing several critical and difficult to acquire components.
To: GRRRRR
Some Interesting Reading...
www.wisconsinproject.org/pubs/articles/2001/bomb%20facts.htm
From the aforementioned web page...
Uranium-235 needed to make a bomb:
- 60 kilograms: Reported amount used in Hiroshima bomb "Little Boy."
- 50 kilograms: Weight of a solid sphere of 100 percent uranium-235 just large enough to achieve a critical mass without a reflector.
- 15 kilograms: Weight of a solid sphere of 100 percent uranium-235 just large enough to achieve a critical mass with a beryllium reflector.
- 16 kilograms: Amount needed for an Iraqi bomb design found by UN inspectors.
To: snopercod
The picture on Drudge says "Made in Germany". Did you catch that?
That might prove interesting even if just the lead case was made in Germany. Probably specialized and control sale items.
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posted on
09/28/2002 5:25:51 PM PDT
by
AdA$tra
To: Right Wing Professor
At the same time, there's no way they could know it's weapons grade without a mass spectrum.
Unless it was indentifiable by other means as to it's origin.
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posted on
09/28/2002 5:27:50 PM PDT
by
AdA$tra
To: snopercod
Yes, I caught that! The Turkish police are reporting that this Uranium is from East Europe. That makes no sense because the printinging would at least be in Cryllic. This looks like these two men could have stolen one of the tactical nuclear payloads that Turkey possesses with US permission and oversight.
Yet Bill Kristol and company would have you believe Russian nukes are a security problem and Turkey is our most reliable ally in the region. That won't be true if radical Islamicists can penetrate the Turkish Army and get their hands on our own nukes! Weekly Standard police thyself!
To: snopercod
Made in W. Germany"I noticed that. How long has this stuff been around? Just what are the German connections. As others have asked, how much has gotten through. Time is a'wasting. This is a picture of a smoking gun if there has ever been one. I don't want anyone nuked, particularly USA and friends.
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posted on
09/28/2002 5:32:24 PM PDT
by
JimSEA
To: GRRRRR
From an Eastern European country, eh? Look at this graphic accompanying the news. It visibly says,
"Made in W. Germany"
To: The Raven
Weapons grade, mind you !!! Good point. How many pounds to make a nuke?
Here's my prediciton. Saddam holds out on the palace inspections until the last minute. Then he "capitulates" under American threats. The inspectors are let in and find nothing. Bush is embarassed and loses so much support that an invasion is no longer politically feasible. You know what happens next.
To: TheEngineer
What size device would this be? Could such a device be carried on say a business jet like a Leer?
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posted on
09/28/2002 6:11:14 PM PDT
by
crz
To: GRRRRR
Response from the appeasing Left:
" How can we bomb Iraq for something that was found in Turkey?"
Any bets something like this will be heard on a Sunday talk show?
To: crz
What size device would this be? Could such a device be carried on say a business jet like a Leer? I'm no expert on the subject. The link that I posted was from doing a yahoo search to learn more. Along with ~36 pounds of U-235, other hardware is required. For example, an implosion-detonated device (using explosives to bring together separate pieces of U-235 into a "critical mass") requires high-explosives wrapped around the core. I have read elsewhere that the USSR developed a suitcase bomb, and therefore I'm sure that one could theoretically be transported on a business jet.
To: GRRRRR
Do we have to see all of NYC go up in am mushroom cloud before the liberals will want to hit Iraq.
But of course intervention in Kosovo was vitally important /sarcasm
To: wretchard
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09/28/2002 8:13:41 PM PDT
by
piasa
To: GRRRRR
If memory serves, 40-lb. is enough for a 20K nuclear weapon.
To: crz
UN inspectors have learned that Iraq's first bomb design, which weighed a ton and was a full meter in diameter, was replaced by a smaller, more efficient model. From discussions with the Iraqis, the inspectors have deduced that the new design weighs only about 600 kilograms and measures only 600 to 650 millimeters in diameter. That makes it small enough to fit on Iraq's Scud-type missiles, some of which are still unaccounted for. Iraq has mastered the key technique of creating an implosive shock wave, which squeezes a bomb's nuclear material enough to trigger a chain reaction. The new Iraqi design also uses a "flying tamper," a refinement that "hammers" the nuclear material to squeeze it even harder, so that bombs can be made smaller without diminishing their explosive force. The inspectors have determined that Iraq now has a successful bomb design and lacks only the material to fuel it.
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posted on
09/28/2002 8:35:01 PM PDT
by
seeker41
To: Aquinasfan
Nobody has a clue as to the odds of an inspection crew finding something relevent in Iraq.
I put the odds very low. Even with unlimited access.
To: Pravoslavie
...Uranium is from East Europe. That makes no sense because the printinging would at least be in Cryllic. Not at all. It would be in Cyrillic only if it's from Russia, Bulgaria or Serbia. Poland, Czechia and Slovakia, Rumania, Albania, Hungary all use Roman alphabet. Anyway, all of them with the exception of Russia are out of the equation - they have no weapon grade U, nor they ever had nukes not controlled by Russians.
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posted on
09/29/2002 5:20:29 AM PDT
by
Neophyte
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