Players' rape arrests split football town

Dallas Morning News ^ | 9/20/2002 | Arnold Hamilton

[sneakypete]

Does that mean that blacks should get a free pass on rape because of their race?

Yes,this IS what they think.

How do they think they are? Bill Clinton?

No,but they do think Bubba-1 is black.

[Crowcreek]

"Why does it always have to be a black or white thing?"

His omission of the Indian community in his statements makes it sound like: "It's not as if they raped a white girl . . ."

[07055]

I am getting confused.

The DMN article said:

All five cases are being handled under the state's Youthful Offender Act. If convicted and sentenced, the three teens also would be sent to a state juvenile detention facility, with their cases reviewed annually at ages 18, 19 and 20 to determine if they were complying with conditions of confinement. If convicted, they could be released after the yearly review – or they could be sent to the state's adult correctional system to complete their sentences.

This sure looks like they may get out as early as age 18---unlike adult offenders convicted of rape.

Once Jesse Jackson and NAACP get involved waving the bloody shirt of racism, that seems to be a distinct possibility.

Am I missing something?

[sneakypete]

It chills me that there is a group that thinks gang rape should ever be resolved quietly.

Hit doan be makin' no difference! De 'Ho was askin' for it! De bitch done be settin' de brothas up! (sarcasm)

[sneakypete]

"He noted that black youths – many of them poor – do not enjoy the same recreational and social opportunities as whites."

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. The same old song. It's the white man's fault we're street thugs. How convenient.

You are missing the point here,which is that this black elected official and role model sees violent gang rape as the equivalent of a "recreational and social opportunity" .That's pretty telling.

[1riot1ranger]

They could be released. But unlike a juvenile conviction, where they would be released and their record sealed, the review board could determine that they should serve their full remaining sentence in the state pen. This case seems to be getting publicity outside the state, I don't know about inside, I've emailed the article to relatives in Okla. to see what they know, but like parole review hearings, it will be important to keep pressure and publicity on this to keep these animals locked up.
Racism?? hmmm, who has the stronger case, the poor mistreated blacks or the poor mistreated Indians? Maybe someone could discuss the Buffalo Soldiers and their participation in putting down rebellious Indians.

[martin gibson]

Mr. Taylor said that he believes his hometown bears responsibility for helping create a climate in which such an incident could occur. He noted that black youths – many of them poor – do not enjoy the same recreational and social opportunities as whites

The African children playing football for Duncan High were merely performing an act of revolutionary violence/symbolic speech demonstrating solidarity with all oppressed peoples of the earth in partial reparation for years of their subjugation at the hands of the white, male, pig oppressor class.

Aren't the African children playing football for Duncan High the real victims here?

[hellinahandcart]

950 black people in town, and the only black man quoted in the article is an idiot.

I'm sure if the author bothered to look, he could have found about two hundred black parents who are relieved that their daughters will be spared a similar fate.

So maybe it's the author who has the agenda. We just can't have a crime without blaming society for its creation, can we?

[realpatriot71]

Others – particularly those in the predominantly black area of Duncan known as "The Hill" – suggest the case illustrates a history of local law enforcement overlooking the transgressions of well-to-do whites while making examples of low-income blacks. They suggest that if the defendants had been white, the case would have been handled differently and resolved quietly.

I don't know if this is a true statement or not, but what this statment is in this case is NOT RELEVANT! A girl was raped, please keep the political "blame whitey" machine to yourselves in this case. This wasn't white cops hasstling some black guys for "driving" or "walking down the street". This is the Law prosecuting rapists. The black community needs to get it priorities straight - real quick.

[sneakypete]

Some were appalled that a group of black ministers established a legal defense fund for the accused teenagers.

Why would anybody be surprised about this? This is the traditional road to wealth and power for black preachers.

Mr. Taylor, 50, said he believes the case of the five football players – most from single-parent homes or being raised by their grandmothers –

It be societies fault. De bitches done be settin' the brothas up! De man done locked their daddies up for minor crimes like rape and robbery so dey couldn't be dere to raise dere boys right! Either dat,or the racist welfare system set up by de white man dun be forcin' dese daddies away from dur famblys do de mama can be earnin' mo' money! It all be a 'spiracy by dat ol' debil white man,I tell ya!

illustrates that low-income black youths aren't treated the same as white teens whose families have money.

It also illustrates how they are treated differently from white teens whose parents don't have money. Nobody would be holding fundraisers or making excuses for white rapists.

He believes the case would have been been resolved without ever going to trial or being splashed on the front page of the newspaper if it had involved affluent whites.

The truly sad part is that he probably DOES believe this,and he is a "community leader".

[sneakypete]

Ah. So those po' black youths indulge in gang-rape and pedophilia as a way to pass the time?

Yew mus' be wona dem damn racists!

Well, I guess it's just a different culture and we have to accept that!

Remember,your diversity is your strength. Unless you live in a elisist left enclave or gated community,that is. Then you just get to tell this nonsense to other people.

[sneakypete]

So....that makes it okay to 'recreate' on a poor helpless Indian girl? Hang the bastards!

Or maybe just let them go out drinking with some Indians? That would surely enrichen their "recreational opportunities".

[sneakypete]

So gang-rape is a recreational activity in their community? A team-sport?

Look for 3rd world countries to make it a new Olympic sport. Hey,if they can manage to find virgins to rape,they can even cure their AIDS!

[sneakypete]

They will still receive adult level sentences. Under the youthful offender act they will serve their time in juvenile detention facilities until they turn 21, then be transferred to the state

Excellent news. Thank you for clearing that up.

[Teacher317]

<"It had nothing to do with what race they were," [Boehm] said. "Rape is one of the most violent crimes there is. They were terrorizing and traumatizing a 14-year-old girl. That's what it's all about. It could have been five white guys, and I wouldn't have handled it any differently."

As if the race-baiters would believe THAT.

(Interesting that the sole voice of reason was the very last sentence of the article.)

[Teacher317]

I wonder if we can find the height/weight statistics for these 16 and 17 year old "children", since they were on the football team. 5 guys, probably averaging 6ft and 200lb of linebacker muscle attacking a 14 year old girl (who is probably no more than a spindly 5'4", 120 lbs).

I guess we can't prejudice the erader in such a blatant manner, though.

[Stone Mountain]

If this preacher had done his job at least two of these animals would not have raped

Really?

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[NYCVirago]

For example, Mr. Taylor said that he believes his hometown bears responsibility for helping create a climate in which such an incident could occur. He noted that black youths – many of them poor – do not enjoy the same recreational and social opportunities as whites. The best recreational facilities tend to be miles from the southeast part of town, where most black residents live, he said.

Um, all these students had plenty of recreational and social opportunities as being stars of the high school's football team! What is this jerk saying -- that midnight basketball would have prevented them from gang-raping a girl?