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[AdA$tra]

I heard that the XP patch is over 30meg in size... Anyone confirm that?

Assuming you are talking about SP1 for XP: Varies from machine to machine and depends on whether you use the express option as well. The express option (recomended by MS, whatever that means) only updates thing that haven't been previously patched incrementally. That is what I did on this machine. It was around 35MB. But it also took 3 HOURS to run it via live update. I ordered the CD for future SP1 installs.

[Redleg Duke]

Doorknobs

[Freemeorkillme]

Linux distros will eventually end up putting patches out there just like M$ has to do.

Ummm... you may want to actually go to, oh, say Redhat's site and search through their rpms and tgzs. You'll find a number of "patches" far more specific in nature than, for instance, MS' servus packs. "Build yer own kernel, damnit!" rdb3, are you running a server with the 2.5 kernel?

[AdA$tra]

I heard that the XP patch is over 30meg in size... Anyone confirm that?

Additionally: It took three hours over an unshared full t1 attached to Sprint's backbone. Don't think the actual download is what is so time consuming as I can download 30Mbs in a few seconds. SP3 for 2000 takes forever as well.

[rdb3]

rdb3, are you running a server with the 2.5 kernel?

Oh, no! Not just yet. I'm testing it on an old AMD K6-II 333Mhz machine with Redhat 7.3. This box most certainly isn't "live."

But so far, so good.

[AdA$tra]

rdb3, are you running a server with the 2.5 kernel?

I stepped in a big 'ol pile of 2.5 kernel the other day. My shoes still smell funny.

[js1138]

SP3 for 2000 takes forever as well. I had no problem downloading SP3, or installing it on several machines. I generally don't back up the old configuration, since I don't have any mission critical computers at home. Just keep my documents backed up.

[smith288]

I tried that and I checked out Lycoris too. Lycoris was alright but lacked lots of things since its meant for the new XP user going to linux. I lasted longest on Lycoris but found out trying to install some things i was missing dependencies and would just trash my install and go back to windows.

[Dominic Harr]

Linux defenders will claim that Microsoft is responsible for the IIS code and is accountable for it's flaws.

Um, because Microsoft *makes* IIS?

This isn't in any way, shape or form a Linux exploit. Any more than an IIS exploit is a Windows exploit. This isn't a Linux v. Windows thing in any way. At best, for your purposes, it's an Apache v. IIS thing.

I'm not a Linux guy, but even I can see you're cluelessness here. Your post seems to be some kind of attempt at damage control for MS, hence the term, "FUD" would apply quite accurately.

Apache has now had 2 root exploits in the last 4 years. IIS has had dozens. Apache is by far the most popular web server, with over 60% of the market.

Yet reading back, I see others have explained the exact same thing to you, and yet you've not learned it.

Interesting.

[AdA$tra]

I had no problem downloading SP3

I did make an assumption there as my only real experience with SP3 was my wife's PC at home. I have a jr. space cadet here at the office that is handling Windows update for me. I just asked him....he says some take a while and some don't. Whatever that means. My XP experience was on my brand new Inspiron 8200 2.0Gz P4 with 512Mb RAM. I hope it isn't a PC performance issue...LOL

[John Robinson]

Yes, hcp is filtered. We're using an inclusive filter, only trusted protocols are allowed in links.

[Freemeorkillme]

If you had answered in the affirmative, I would've told you that "bravery" wouldn't have been the correct characterization. LOL.

Oh, how's RH7.3 in terms of older hardware support modules? I think it's time to piece together my non-big-bro AMD K6II CPU and moboard again, is why I ask.

[AdA$tra]

Apache has now had 2 root exploits in the last 4 years. IIS has had dozens.

See rifle range and target analogy on #36.

[js1138]

If you have a computer person at work, he/she should dounload the SP3 package and put it on a CD. Even if you only upgrade two machines, this is faster than the live upgrade. And if you ever have to reinstall Windows, you have the service packs already downloaded.

This applies regardless of OS.

[Dominic Harr]

See rifle range and target analogy on #36.

Apache is over 60% of the server market. Microsoft's IIS is ~30%.

Apache is the biggest target. And it's more secure, with fewer exploits and the exploits fixed faster.

The 'marketshare' excuse is wrong. MS does not have more exploits because they have more marketshare. They have more holes even when they have *less* marketshare.

[rdb3]

Oh, how's RH7.3 in terms of older hardware support modules? I think it's time to piece together my non-big-bro AMD K6II CPU and moboard again, is why I ask.

You won't have any problems with it at all. Trust me. I would have had far more installation problems with Slack on the old box, but RH went on without a hitch. The new kernel isn't presenting any problems on it, either (as far as hardware is concerned, of course).

[Freemeorkillme]

No problem???

SP3 is 124MB, IIRC. That's just a service pack. Do you know how large your 2000 OS is? It's a noticebly, monolithic, static kernel, isn't it.

ps-patches treat a known ailment, backups save lives.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Buffer overflows were known about and avoided since before PL1. Anyone still writing code suceptable to such an error should be guilty of criminal negligence. These problems were solved more than 40 years ago. It seems that modern programmers just repeat: the mistakes of the past, repeat.

[js1138]

You find someone with a high speed connection and burn the SP file to a CD. About half an hour total.

[AdA$tra]

Have your read rbd3's bio? You two sound like you'd make a hot team!

Heavily armed, highly trained computer geeks able to leap Iraq in a single bound!