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Windows critic shown HP's door
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| September 13 2K2
| Garry Barker
Posted on 09/14/2002 8:14:16 PM PDT by rdb3
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09/14/2002 8:14:16 PM PDT
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rdb3
To: John Robinson; B Knotts; stainlessbanner; TechJunkYard; ShadowAce; Knitebane; AppyPappy; jae471; ...
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Got root?
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09/14/2002 8:15:01 PM PDT
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rdb3
To: rdb3
HP's competitors will use this firing, at least for a while, to insert a little FUD into the buying decisions of UNIX shops where Hewlett-Packard has a bid on the table. Nobody can tell what this firing really means, and it might mean a strategic shift by HP away from linux. If I'm the IBM or Dell salesman, I'll make sure my linux customers know about this.
It will be interesting to see if IBM picks him up as a Fellow. In better times, the VC's would grab him as a "celebrity executive" for one of their start-ups, but things are pretty cold in that sector right now. |
To: Nick Danger
...but things are pretty cold in that sector right now."Pretty cold?" How 'bout Antarctic-cold?
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09/14/2002 8:53:49 PM PDT
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rdb3
To: rdb3
How 'bout Antarctic-cold? Colder than the inside of a crusty black pantsuit?
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posted on
09/14/2002 9:01:08 PM PDT
by
IncPen
To: rdb3
How 'bout Antarctic-cold? It was so cold...
How cold was it?
It was so cold, I saw a venture capitalist with his hands in his own pockets.
To: Nick Danger
Hey, I think that was originally a lawyer joke.
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09/14/2002 9:31:24 PM PDT
by
DB
To: Nick Danger
...but things are pretty cold in that sector right now. And I doubt if they'll ever warm up for someone who passionately believes in the Open Source movement, because it's very hard to make money when you believe everything should be free.
Open Source may or may not be a good idea for the consumers (it depends on circumstances), but companies that depend on Open Source software for revenues have a built-in cap on how much they can make. Venture capitalists don't like that.
To: rdb3
Anything I should know before I download Linux? Are there different versions of it? Does it have email? Do I have to delete Windows before installing it?
Thanks
To: rdb3
"If Gates doesn't own 100% of everything, the terrorists have won."
;-)
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posted on
09/14/2002 9:44:56 PM PDT
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dighton
To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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09/14/2002 9:48:33 PM PDT
by
rdb3
To: Joe Bonforte
| companies that depend on Open Source software for revenues have a built-in cap on how much they can make. How much money do you think Dell or HP make on a copy of Windows that they resell as an OEM? Do you think it's any different than what they would make installing Linux instead?
Revenues are not margins. In fact revenues that don't generate margins hurt a company's overall ROA. The price pressure on Intel boxes is sufficiently strong that the margins on the Windows resale are pushed to zero by competitive forces. The OEMs are therefore indifferent between Windows and linux. Your venture capitalists will not care how much money you intend to make for Microsoft. They only care how much money you can make. You can't make money reselling Windows. Everybody does it and it's a commodity. It might as well be linux for all the money you'll make from it. |
To: rdb3
The other day I came across a TurboLinux disk that was packaged with some peripheral.
Is it reliable? Easy to use? Can it be installed as a dual OS on a Windows machine?
To: martin_fierro
Yes, yes, and yes.
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09/14/2002 10:02:29 PM PDT
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rdb3
To: rdb3
Now that I dig it out, the CD-ROM identifies it as "TurboLinux Workstation 6.0 Lite". There doesn't appear to be an installation file; rather, the CD-ROM appears to be a mirror disk.
Is it true that Linux runs well on older (i.e., Pentium 75 mhz) systems?
To: rdb3
To HP: good move. Now license .NET for HP/UX.
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09/14/2002 10:20:20 PM PDT
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old-ager
To: rdb3
Hewlett-Packard's direction in the mid-range to large scale server systems has been adrift for quite some time. In the mid 90s HP announced they were going to end production of their PA-RISC harware platform in favor of Merced, and likewise end HP-UX in favor of some Intel-flavor of Unix, such as Solaris on Intel or SCO. At that time HP was the favored choice for running large relational databases, such as Oracle and Informix. This turned out to be a very costly decision for HP, when shorly thereafter all their customers started buying their competitor's offerings when the 64-bit Intel platform was delayed. It was only a few months until HP publically reversed their position, and said they would continue to sell PA-RISC and HPUX. Since then, however, HP has not been able to regain the share in this marke it lost to Sun and IBM.
Therefore, it doesn't suprise me that HP has been vacillating about Linux. They have been having an identity crisis for some time. Of all the major computer companies, IBM has gone the farthest in adopting Linux in their products. I don't find this particularly suprising, since I am sure IBM learned a hard lesson from Microsoft's betrayal.
To: rdb3
To: old-ager
Spoken like a true corporatist.
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posted on
09/14/2002 11:07:11 PM PDT
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rdb3
To: martin_fierro
It's true that Linux is very useful on older systems such as the one you described. Give me 5 such boxes and I'll have me a nice little cluster. But don't get it twisted.
Slackware or Red Hat won't make a P-75 run like a Pentium 4 2.53 Ghz system. Anyone who tells you that it can is lying.
Then again, try loading Win2K on a 386 and watch what happens.
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09/14/2002 11:10:29 PM PDT
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rdb3
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