It's Either Me or the G.O.P., Torricelli Tells Democrats

The New York Times ^ | 9/14/02 | Laura Mansnerus

[D-fendr]

In Texas we call them Yellow-Dog Democrats.

I guess in New Jersey, they're Black Hand Democrats.

[randita]

The people quoted in this article are Yellow Dogs, through and through. But fortunately Yellow Dogs represent a small % of the Democrat Party--probably less than 20%.

Forrester has to get about 2/3 of the mushy middle to win and I think he can do it. The mushy middles don't like scandal and they don't like partisanship. They won't know or care about control of the Senate shifting and they won't vote solely on the issues of abortion and gun control.

I don't think Torricelli will win, but if he does, he'll be a pariah like Condit is. He doesn't have the political skills to pull his rear out of the fire like Clinton did. He just comes across as whiney and boorish--not sincere.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

What the campaign is about, he says, is not personalities, but a conservative tide that would overturn the Roe v. Wade decision, turn back hard-won environmental protections and plunge the nation into war.

Torricelli forgot to mention scaring the old folks with taking away Social Security.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

I know this might seem goofy, but one would think the Democrats would be in favor of Roe vs. Wade, because it'd force the births of (typically) more Dummy-crats.

[Norman Arbuthnot]

The people quoted in this article are Yellow Dogs, through and through. But fortunately Yellow Dogs represent a small % of the Democrat Party--probably less than 20%.

The people quoted in this article are not representive of the whole state of NJ. Granted, NJ usually leans democratic, but Montclair is a real DemocRAT stronghold. Montclair is a very wealthy NYC suburb, dominated by leftist professionals. Montclair is probably almost as far to left as Cambridge, Mass. or the Upper West Side of Manhattan.They would vote for Robert Mugabe or Saddam Hussein for Senate as long as they were pro-abortion and pro- gun control. I'm still optomistic about the Torch being thrown out. It is my hope that signicant numbers of democrats in NJ's blue collar communities either won't vote for the Torch or even vote for Forrester because they are so offended by the Torch's corruption.

[ReaganIsRight]

This jumped out at me too. I registered non-partisan because my father did a stint in the FBI and wanted to remain above politics.

I know several older (some dead) voters in MD who registered Democratic just so they could vote in the primary for the worst candidate in the slim hope a Pubbie could get elected.

Maybe that's how Mikulski got in, she was opposed by the Demonrat machine the first time she ran for Balto City council. She just kept winning with that D and mindless/thoughtless voters.

[Willie Green]

but one would think the Democrats would be in favor of Roe vs. Wade, because it'd force the births of (typically) more Dummy-crats.

Poverty pimps ALWAYS abuse and exploit their own first.

[fire_eye]

just remember, many of the interviewes are well educated professionals.

Yeah, that's the *problem*. Educated fools.

In fact... I think they're fools BECAUSE they're educated, not in spite of it...

[randita]

The people quoted in this article are not representive of the whole state of NJ. Granted, NJ usually leans democratic, but Montclair is a real DemocRAT stronghold. Montclair is a very wealthy NYC suburb, dominated by leftist professionals.

Agreed. Montclair is also a college town and those are notoriously liberal. This viewpoint is certainly not representative of several of my family members who live in south Joysey.

[kylaka]

INDOCTRINATED is the word, not Educated.