Answers to Ron Paul's Questions on Iraq From an Opponent of the War

Lew Rockwell ^ | 9/14/02 | Jacob G. Hornberger

[Roscoe]

Your bluff was called, you folded.

[Ragin1]

Only in your small gov't compensated mind.

[Ragin1]

Come on Roscoe P. Cheerleader, can you prove the WPA passes the review of The Constitution of The United States?

[Ragin1]

Tell you what Roscoe, while you figure out the slip slide act, I'm going to get a shower, and a full nights sleep. Have a good one.

[M. Thatcher]

Under what terms does a nation have no right of self defense? Another bullet in the head, eh?

Look up: JAPANESE MILITARY.

[Ragin1]

OOOh. That was a good one. You should have said, have gun, will shoot.

g'nite all.

[Roscoe]

Your ignorance of history equals your ignorance of the law.

"An early controversy revolved about the issue of the President's powers and the necessity of congressional action when hostilities are initiated against us rather than the Nation instituting armed conflict. The Bey of Tripoli, in the course of attempting to extort payment for not molesting United States shipping, declared war upon the United States, and a debate began whether Congress had to enact a formal declaration of war to create a legal status of war. President Jefferson sent a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean to protect our ships but limited its mission to defense in the narrowest sense of the term. Attacked by a Tripolitan cruiser, one of the frigates subdued it, disarmed it, and, pursuant to instructions, released it. Jefferson in a message to Congress announced his actions as in compliance with constitutional limitations on his authority in the absence of a declaration of war. Hamilton espoused a different interpretation, contending that the Constitution vested in Congress the power to initiate war but that when another nation made war upon the United States we were already in a state of war and no declaration by Congress was needed. Congress thereafter enacted a statute authorizing the President to instruct the commanders of armed vessels of the United States to seize all vessels and goods of the Bey of Tripoli 'and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify . . .' But no formal declaration of war was passed, Congress apparently accepting Hamilton's view."

http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/constitution/article01/41.html#f1423

[Ragin1]

By the way margie, Iraq did not start a war with the US. It was the other way around. (after the admin ok'd the taking of Kuwait. Please tell us how good the soveriegn of Kuwait is, and outline its worthiness of our tax dollars while your stuttering.

[Roscoe]

Time for him to take it on the lam.

[Ragin1]

So what are you trying to say Roscoe, Tripoli extorted rights of passage from our ships, equates to, USA overuns Iraq?

Or are you saying Hamilton proved that Bush can shoot anytime he wants?

[Ragin1]

"Congress apparently accepting Hamilton's view."

Cmon Coletrain, you can speak for yourself can't you? (apparently)

[Roscoe]

So what are you trying to say Roscoe

Two things:

1. We were attacked.

2. You can support you own position.

[Ragin1]

Iraq attacked us Roscoe? Are you serious? I really think it was the Saudi's.

[Roscoe]

I really think it was the Saudi's.

The administration doesn't take such a simple minded view.

Found your cite yet?

[Ragin1]

Still looking for a judges definition Roscoe? Simple minded view, eh? The Saudi's are innocent of 9/11 of course. It was that evil man based in Afghanistan, with support from Iraq, using mostly Saudi people to do the deed.

And we should bomb the shit out of Baghdad because, Saddam didn't play fair, and of course we need that diversion.

Anything but the pipeline, eh Roscoe?

[M. Thatcher]

OOOh. That was a good one.

Yes, it was. Completely nuked your so-called "argument."

[Ragin1]

Did I forget the virtue's of Pakistan in that tirade? Forgive me. How did the leaders escape?

[Ragin1]

Only a statist would see it such.

[Texasforever]

And we should bomb the shit out of Baghdad because, Saddam didn't play fair, and of course we need that diversion.

Diversion from what? Yes we should and will bomb the "shit" out of Baghdad. You can volunteer for human shield duty at any time.

[Ragin1]

Define human shield please. Why should we bomb Baghdad, again? Because he doesn't let UN inspectors on his turf? Or is it now our turf? And please do define soveriegn while your at it, I need the schooling only the gov't can give.