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Pope Asks God to Show Mercy on Sept. 11 Attackers
Reuters via iWon.com ^ | Sept 11, 2002 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 09/11/2002 5:32:02 AM PDT by Pern

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To: Puddleglum
Please to the research. I want to know biblically where that concept originated. If it is'nt derived from the Bible then it was created by man, and man by nature is fallen from the Grace of God and lies.

That is why we have the bible as the word of God...It cannot be changed or manipulated as can man's words.

161 posted on 09/11/2002 7:53:29 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: glegakis
He's not practicing "true" Christianity. Few Catholics are.

Catholicism *is* true Christianity. All other Christian sects are offshoots of Catholicism at best Their religion is full of pagan idolotry, rituals, ceremonies and traditions that are totally unsupported by the old or new testaments. Much of Catholicism is Christian heresy.

You are wrong. And you perpetuate the typical myths and misunderstandings.

I Love them for their strong pro-life stance and charity but the religion is wacked.

You're wrong.
162 posted on 09/11/2002 7:53:31 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Dirk McQuickly
So if Christianity were declared illegal today, would it cease to exist? Curious logic on your part.

By no means is this what I'm saying. My point is that there were Christians before there was a Roman Catholic Church and that there is a documented history of extra-biblical teachings and organizational decisions that went into the creation of the Roman Catholic organization.
163 posted on 09/11/2002 7:57:51 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: glegakis
Thanks for injecting the mandatory anti-Catholic bigotry into this thread.
164 posted on 09/11/2002 7:57:55 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
I am going to do what no one else has the balls to do.

You are a self righteous, arrogant, person who needs to repent for your prideful ways.

165 posted on 09/11/2002 8:00:37 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: smoking camels
Where in the Bible is this concept of Purgatory taught?

2 Mac 12:40-45: Below each dead man's robe, they [Jude's men] found items consecrated to idols from Jamnia, forbidden by the Law of the jews. They understood then, why these men had died. All were admired of the Lord's intervention, just judge that takes to light the most secret actions; and they prayed to the Lord so he would forgive totally this sin to their dead companions.... He [ Jude ] did among his soldiers a collect which took two thousand of silver coins. They sent them to Jerusalem, so that there would be offered a sacrifice for the sin. All this they did well inspired by the belief on resurrection. For, if they had not believed that the fallen partners would resurrect, it would have been a futile and stupid thing to pray for them. But they believed firmly in a worthy reward for those who died in God's grace; so this is why their worrying was good and holy. This was the reason for which Jude offered this sacrifice for the dead, so they could be forgiven from their sin.

Matthew 12:32 "And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the {world} to come."

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (12) Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; (13) Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. (14) If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. (15) If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

166 posted on 09/11/2002 8:01:08 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Drango
It is up to God to forgive. It is our job to introduce all terrorists to him...

May God have mercy on their souls, and the United States military have none.

167 posted on 09/11/2002 8:01:21 AM PDT by Samwise
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To: sinkspur; Orual; Romulus; general_re
... earlier and healthier ages.

That did smack the reader's face, as I suspect Evelyn Waugh intended.

168 posted on 09/11/2002 8:01:45 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Conservative til I die
Ummm...Protestants don't have Maccabees, Wisdom and a few others. Luther took them out, so they're not going to find some of the Catholic teachings in their bibles.
169 posted on 09/11/2002 8:02:38 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: ishmac
Right on.
170 posted on 09/11/2002 8:03:29 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: smoking camels
I am going to do what no one else has the balls to do.

I guessed you weren't a female.

You are a self righteous, arrogant, person who needs to repent for your prideful ways.

No doubt. My sinfulness has nothing to do with whether the Pope is wrong to ask for mercy for the terrorists.

171 posted on 09/11/2002 8:03:51 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: tomahawk
First the Vatican says the U.S. shouldn't take out Saddam because that's fighting evil with evil

The Pope did not say anything of the sort. Stop with the lies.
172 posted on 09/11/2002 8:04:14 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Pern
DITTO
173 posted on 09/11/2002 8:04:34 AM PDT by dhfnc
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To: Rebelbase
I will research, but you should explain to me how the ink on the page turns into the exact same ideas in everyone's head. If you cannot think of a way to explain this, then I'll have to get you to admit that we are taught what words mean by something other than the words themselves. And once you've admitted that, I'll stack my Church doctors against your own.
174 posted on 09/11/2002 8:05:25 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: sinkspur
as did the terrorists. sheesh....
175 posted on 09/11/2002 8:05:30 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: sinkspur
Jesus prayed this way for the Jews because they had no idea that they were condoning the crucifixion of their long awaited Messiah. The situations don't even compare. The terrorists knew exactly what they were doing.
176 posted on 09/11/2002 8:06:40 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Moomah
For God's sake ... which Bible does the holy father read anyway? My Bible says those who die apart from God's forgiveness through his son Jesus Christ are banished to HELL. There is no forgiveness after death. No second chance. No mercy available.

Is this an exact quote? You *did* say this is what the Bible says. Or is this your interpretation of what the Bible says?
177 posted on 09/11/2002 8:07:10 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: GraniteStateConservative
He believes in apocryphal texts.

You forgot to add "IMO" in between 'apocryphal' and 'texts.'
178 posted on 09/11/2002 8:08:27 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: sinkspur; BlueLancer
He revealed the state of his own soul.

Sorry, but I missed the course in omniscience. I think the class size was limited to two, just you and another Bloke.

179 posted on 09/11/2002 8:08:51 AM PDT by Orual
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To Pope; re; prayers that God would show mercy and forgiveness for the attackers.

Will a clean platter for Osama's and his cronies heads be sufficient mercy? I sure hope so ...that's the best I can do.

180 posted on 09/11/2002 8:10:33 AM PDT by Pistacio
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