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Senate Candidate Elizabeth Dole Remains an Enigma
Women's Enews ^ | 9/5/02 | Allison Stevens

Posted on 09/07/2002 2:58:12 PM PDT by technochick99

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1 posted on 09/07/2002 2:58:12 PM PDT by technochick99
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To: technochick99
funny, enigma isn't the word i'd use for madam dole.....
2 posted on 09/07/2002 3:13:44 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: goodieD
LOL!
3 posted on 09/07/2002 3:17:58 PM PDT by technochick99
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To: technochick99
Enigma? NO! RINO is more like it.

Elizabeth Dole is a gun-hating democRat in disguise.

4 posted on 09/07/2002 3:20:52 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: LibKill
Pro-choice I can live with, but anti-gun? Not good.
5 posted on 09/07/2002 3:29:01 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: technochick99
Liddy and I have the same ideology - mainstream GOP, although she might be a bit to the right of me. But she has this mask. That is why she is an enigma to me. In that sense, she is like Hillary. Her public persona strikes one as false. But it doesn't really matter. Some judges need to be confirmed. That is all.
6 posted on 09/07/2002 3:31:49 PM PDT by Torie
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To: technochick99
She's far better than whoever she is running against. As for anti-gun, that can be changed. I've known several individuals (one of them my father) who became pro-gun. There just are far too many good arguments for gun ownership.

Anyway, Dole would be far better than the Dem. she'll be running against.

7 posted on 09/07/2002 3:33:23 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: LibKill
Why don't you post Liddy's "gun hating" record? I don't care a hoot, but on this site, it will attract much interest, if you can back up your claim.
8 posted on 09/07/2002 3:33:33 PM PDT by Torie
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To: LibKill
The RINO crap is getting old.
9 posted on 09/07/2002 3:33:34 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Torie
Once when I heard her talk, she sure did NOT sound like she hated guns. I was well impressed with her attitude -- so unlike Hillary.
10 posted on 09/07/2002 3:43:40 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Jimer
Actually, about 75% of the voters that typically vote GOP are RINO's per the definition around here. I bet you didn't know that rinos breed more prolifically than rabbits did you?
11 posted on 09/07/2002 3:44:42 PM PDT by Torie
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Why don't you post Liddy's "gun hating" record? I don't care a hoot, but on this site, it will attract much interest, if you can back up your claim.

Unfortunately I can't post old TV clips.

In her last run for the Presidential nomination, she trashed the NRA on TV. This was shortly after the Columbine massacre.

Her candidacy sank faster than the Titanic after that.

A vote for Liddy Dole is a vote for Bill Clinton Lite.

12 posted on 09/07/2002 3:45:52 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: LibKill
This may shock you, but further gun control is dead as an issue. Assuming you are correct, you are fighting on old fronts rather than new ones. That is poor tactics in my opinion.
13 posted on 09/07/2002 3:47:48 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Well, she supported the "assualt weapons" ban for starters.

As for being a RINO:

She went to Harvard Law School.

She then went straight to Washington to be a bureaucrat with the Department of Health, Welfare, and Human Service.

She registered as a Democrat.

Still a Democrat, she served on LBJ's consumer affairs comission.

She stayed in that office when Nixon came in, swithcing her affiliation to Independent.

Only when she married Dole did she switch to Republican.

As Secreatary of Transportation, her big Republican accomplishment was using the Federal Gov't to force all the states to adopt the 55 mph spped limit.

One day she dressed up like Bobby Brady did when he was a hall monitor and stopped everyone coming to work at DOT with a little red stop sign to see if they were wearing their seatbelts.

What more does one need to know that she is a RINO?

14 posted on 09/07/2002 3:48:57 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Torie
RINOs have poor vision, but they're territorial and they come in black, white, and other varieties.
15 posted on 09/07/2002 3:50:31 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Rodney King
She sounds OK to me. Granted the 55 mile speed limit went out with cars with CAFE standards. I simply am not going to vote for or against someone on their views on the assault weapons ban back when. I suspect few will. It is on of those symbolic cultural issues which I despise.
16 posted on 09/07/2002 3:54:10 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
I would vote for her If I lived in NC, but we should not make any mistake about what she is. She is going to go to washington and on every single issue she will threaten to buck the party in order to get media attention. Is she better than the democrat? sure. Do I think that the party should not have pushed her so hard? yes. I would rather have a real republican.

As for the assualt weapons ban, in fact it is going to come up for renewal in I think two years. So I would rather have someone who would not vote for renewal.
17 posted on 09/07/2002 4:03:55 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: technochick99
My memory of her is that she is "pro-choice". Has she now declared herself to be "pro-life"?

critics say Dole is a moderate in conservative clothing.

My memory of her is that she is a liberal in moderates clothing. But hey, if she will vote with the Republican caucus, at least that is something. Beats the alternative.

18 posted on 09/07/2002 4:07:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: LibKill
I agree with you that Dole is no Helms. I wish Helms could have a younger clone that would represent North Carolina.

The problem is North Carolina is a Democrat State. Democrats have held power over state government for over 100 years.

There are too many Blacks who blindly pull the Democrat lever because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton told them Republicans want to burn crosses in their yards and lynch them.

There are too many Southern Democrats who won't vote Republican because they still think The Republican party is the Party of the Union. In other words they can't let the civil war go.

Jim Snyder would probably be a better candidate, but he is a candidate that cannot beat Erskine Bowles. Dole is the only Candidate that can beat Bowles. If North Carolina goes to Demonrat hands, the Senate will continue to block Bush's Judges.

Did you know that over half of all Federal Judges have been appointed by Bill Clinton? The Judges that keep making insane decisions like removing "Under God" from the Pledge and Banning a Cross on a National Park are all Clinton Judges.

The Judicial System is what is at stake this November. This election is about Pickering and Owen not Dole and Bowles.

The house is much less important than the Senate.

A U.S. Supreme Court Justice will probably come up for nomination within the next two years. Bush has picked great Judges for the appeals court, but the Rats keep blocking them. Do you think they will be more or less likely to block a Supreme Court Judge than an Appeals Court Judge?

The Courts are what have the rats scared. They impliment most of their wacky agenda through the court system. They are holding on to it with everything they have.

Dole will vote with the Republicans on Judicial Nominations, and that is what counts.

Bowles is a clinton crony who will work with Daschle to block Judicial Nominations. Even more so if the Republicans cannot take the Senate, Leahy and Daschle will never let any Conservative on the Supreme Court.

Dole admits that she had questions about the concealed carry laws and "assault weapons" she also says that after talking to North Carolina Sheriffs she has decided that the concealed carry law works and that Assault Weapons are not a problem.

This is her statement given to the North Carolina Rifle and Pistol Association.

Second Amendment Second to None
BY ELIZABETH DOLE

I have been a strong supporter of the Second Amendment throughout my career. I was proud to be the first woman to ever address the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in 1982. I said then, and I believe now, that individual gun ownership is a Constitutional right that should not be abridged – no more than the government should be allowed to limit the First Amendment right to free speech.

Thousands of North Carolinians exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. They target shoot in the field and at ranges. They hunt in the woods and the marshes. They collect firearms, re-enact history and honor cherished traditions. They protect their families and property. If I have the honor of representing the good people of North Carolina in the United States Senate, I will oppose restrictions on the ownership of firearms that penalize the law-abiding citizen.

Like President Bush, I will work hard to ensure that we enforce the laws that already exist, and I believe our highest priority should be keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. The National Instant Background Check has proven to be the most successful approach to achieving this goal. I’ll insist that we prosecute anyone who attempts to purchase a gun illegally. And I’ll insist that the federal government does NOT keep centralized records on law abiding American purchasers.

In the past, I expressed support for the ban on “assault weapons,” and questioned whether it was necessary to own one of these weapons to hunt or to defend our homes. Many argued that it should not be the federal government’s role to decide which gun, of which caliber, with which accessories, Americans can use in exercise of their Second Amendment rights. Seven years after President Clinton and his allies outlawed so-called “assault” weapons, there appears to have been little effect on crime prevention or punishment. What is effective is the Instant Check system. We should stick with what works and enhance the capabilities of the Instant Check to ensure that it functions promptly, that there is access to all relevant records, and that criminals and other prohibited persons who try to buy guns are prosecuted.

The Instant Check system is, in my view, just good common sense. And so is providing safety locks and information with every new gun to help prevent misuse. President Bush, state and local law enforcement and firearms manufacturers are working in over 4000 localities to distribute safety kits, including safety locks. Project HomeSafe is in place in 54 North Carolina counties already. I will work to support its expansion throughout our state and our nation to promote safe firearms practices. Responsible behavior, proper parenting, safety information and appropriate safety locks are all important ingredients in helping to further reduce firearms accidents – especially among children.

North Carolina has another common sense proposal in place: a right to carry law that allows citizens to obtain a concealed handgun permit from the local sheriff after being trained and certified. I have met with North Carolina sheriffs who know the law is working. It works because criminals do not like to prey on those who can defend themselves.

But here in North Carolina, we could also benefit from an idea pioneered in our neighboring state of Virginia. I strongly support expanding Project Exile to North Carolina. Under this program, a convicted felon caught with a gun faces mandatory five-year federal prison term – no plea bargaining and no parole. It is this sort of no nonsense approach that best deals with gun crime. We do not need new restrictions on those who already observe the thousands of gun laws on the books. Full enforcement of current laws will make North Carolina safe. Full respect for the Second Amendment will keep North Carolina free.

Now she may be paying lip service. We don't know. What we do know is that Bowles is Anti-Gun, Anti-Life and Pro-Homosexual.

How much Pro-Gun, Pro-Life legislation is going to come out of the Senate if it is in Demonrat hands. Getting the Committees in Republican control is what counts.

Snyder may be a good candidate, but he CANNOT be bowles in Democrat North Carolina.

The only Republican candidate that can is Dole.

Remeber your Vote is for Judicial Nominations more than anything else.

One more thing before you call me a moderate/liberal I think you should know that I am farther to the Right than probably anyone here on Free Republic.

I believe anyone who attempts to perform or have an Abortion should be brought up on Capital Murder Charges. I believe Fornication, Adultery, Blasphemy, and Homosexuality should be capital offenses just like they were at the Founding of our nation.

I think citizens should have the right to own any type of firearm they wish even if it is a .50 cal machine gun.

I make Dole look Like an Ultra-Leftist. But I am also a realist and I know that without getting the Judiciary in Conservative hands, the liberals will continue to chip away at our nation's Christian Heritage and will work to push for the legalization of more baby killing.

The Court System is going to be the big battle ground where the liberals try to push homosexual marriage on us. If we can't get Conservative Judges on the bench, our nation's moral fabric will be shredded and we will be doomed.

The Judicial system is the big prize in November, and we have to do whatever we can to get the Senate in the Right hands. WHATEVER WE CAN!!!

19 posted on 09/07/2002 4:16:24 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
Well I suppose that Liddy is better than a certified democRAT.

It's up to the people of the very beautiful state of North Carolina. I wish them well.

20 posted on 09/07/2002 4:23:00 PM PDT by LibKill
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