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Veterinarian admits beating dogs
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Posted on 09/06/2002 12:40:26 PM PDT by chance33_98

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To: Still Thinking
Maybe it's just safer behind him.

/bow

That was very good.

41 posted on 09/06/2002 3:36:04 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: pabianice
These vets must be a bunch of whackos. A vet in SC, years ago, killed his wayward adopted son, then hauled the body to a trash dumpster. During the trial he referred to his son as an 'it'.

Do these guys do some kind of dog medicine as a recreational drug?

42 posted on 09/06/2002 3:47:58 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: Razz Barry
I'm sitting my grandbaby IG this weekend. Sapphire is a very sweet dog, and will keep you warm as toast in bed, but she's dumb as a rock. My husband says she's worthless and can't understand why anyone would have one. I told him women keep them for the same reason we keep men. To have something to baby and laugh at.

Ha! I think you really have to love them to own them - high maintenance dogs for sure. We had ours for a year, but couldn't keep her because she couldn't adjust to our newborn. She developed some behavior that seemed to be unfixable, and we tried EVERYTHING. So we gave her to a family with another IG and no kids. It was hard and our five year old still asks about her a year later. We just didn't know enough about the breed ahead of time, they are so demanding and much like small children themselves.

Our IG wasn't altogether stupid, could be rather cunning if need be - was a great thief of all things edible, stalked our cat unmercifully and had the most incredible hearing. IGs, being greyhounds, are amazingly fast and have great noses. Of course, they are terrible watchdogs, and not just for size. They will let you know if anyone is around outside no problem (including all sorts of animals, bugs, the wind blowing, leaves falling, haha), but will not act in any sort of protective fashion, no doubt preferring rather to invite the perp in for a good face licking and snuggle. Definitely not a manly man's dog. :) But at the same time, they are so good with people. I don't think our IG ever reacted in anger - she didn't seem to know how.

They are pathetically affectionate, constantly in the lap or under the covers or just tripping you up as you walk around the house. I'm sure you know all this. Enjoy having Sapphire for a visit, and enjoy that you can give her back when you're done!

43 posted on 09/06/2002 3:59:49 PM PDT by agrace
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To: CWRWinger
Probably ketamine.....
44 posted on 09/06/2002 4:00:24 PM PDT by tracer
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To: pabianice
Your story is frightening to say the least.
45 posted on 09/06/2002 4:09:24 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: BossLady
Notice there were no Rottweilers or Pit Bulls involved...

Yeah, and isn't that just too bad.

46 posted on 09/06/2002 4:13:26 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Great Dane
My thoughts exactly....
47 posted on 09/06/2002 4:18:10 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: vetvetdoug
if they had to handle some of the idiots we see in a day's work. Albeit, most are pleasant and that makes the job rewarding.

But you must admit that some of the idiots are vet's, there are bad apples in that bushel as well as in any other.

48 posted on 09/06/2002 4:19:45 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: chance33_98
Notice that this psycho punk only beats on dogs that are unlikely to bite.

He can take a swing at me anytime. I can do a great pitbull imitation.

49 posted on 09/06/2002 4:33:04 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: vetvetdoug
I tend to agree with you here. In the words of Topsy, "Somebody ain't tellin' all they knows."

May be abuse, may be burnout, may be a disgruntled client.

I've never smacked my Lab, but I have used a chain collar on her. She is not stupid, and she's certainly not mean (just assertive), but when we started training she occasionally needed a pop on the chain to get her attention. I haven't had one on her in 6 months, though, clicker training has been a great success. She still won't come when she's stolen my gardening glove though, she runs around and grins at me. Her high point was stealing one of the float bags for my kayak off the clothesline where it was drying . . . I can offer a testimonial for Dagger float bags being Lab-proof (no small feat). She got it filthy but delivered it up in exchange for a treat, and it still holds air . . . (if I was ever going to hit her, that was when! But when she came to me I couldn't hit her . . . that would be punishing her for coming to me, float bag in mouth) . . . ah, Labs!

50 posted on 09/06/2002 4:40:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: chance33_98
I saw a story about some vets ~~caught on video by their own employees who were fed up~~~~~ showing how they abuse the animals.....
51 posted on 09/06/2002 4:57:02 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: vetvetdoug; HairOfTheDog
It's obvious that neither of you, along with several others who posted on this thread, know what an Italian Greyhound is. They are very small, delicate dogs. The breed is a member of the Toy Group that also includes Chihuahuas, Yorkshire Terriers, Pomeranians and the like. They are about 13 to 15 inches tall at the shoulder, but narrow-bodied. They look like a mild summer breeze would knock them over. For those who are interested, here's a link to the AKC's page for the breed.

Anyone who would hit a small, defenseless animal like an IG for any reason is a vicious, out-of-control SOB who could easily move on to taking his rage out on other people. It's even worse for a vet to do it. He is being paid for his services by a client who entrusts their animal to his care. And yes, a man striking such a small animal in anger could easily kill it. If he's of average size, he might weigh around 170 pounds. An IG weighs in the range of 10-15 pounds or so soaking wet. This vet is a scumbag of the first rank. So's his partner for excusing the SOB's conduct. They both ought to lose their licenses. It's a good thing I live on the opposite side of the country from those d#ckheads, because I'd be raising a ruckus about getting their licenses pulled!!!!

52 posted on 09/06/2002 5:14:40 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: HairOfTheDog
I am not justifying it, only trying to determine the nature of the problem

The nature of the problem is called evil.

53 posted on 09/06/2002 5:18:59 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Liberal Classic
I've taken the belt to my dog before,

That is abuse and all it will do is make your dog fear and hate you. A dog never requires more than a stern tone of voice or, at most, a hand slap to the butt. If the dog does not obey you, you're the one who is doing something wrong, not the dog. Learn some humane training techniques.

54 posted on 09/06/2002 5:23:59 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: chance33_98; jwalsh07; Inkie; rdb3; JavaTheHutt; packrat35; cake_crumb; Mad Dawgg; mafree; 11B3; ...
This story scares me! I need to find a vet for my sweet,timid, older dog and I certainly don't want one like this! If there are any Houston Freepers reading this, and you know of a good vet in the NW Houston/Willowbrook mall area, please let me know! Thanks!
55 posted on 09/06/2002 5:26:52 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX
This vet's a meanie!
56 posted on 09/06/2002 6:11:46 PM PDT by mafree
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To: AnAmericanMother
Beth Breton, a former employee of the clinic,said she reported the abuse in March after learning that the greyhound, named Tara, died under Carmondy's care. She learned that the Italian Greyhound died later so where was she when the dog was alleged to be hit? Why is the partner in the practice so willing to stand behind Carmondy unless there is more to the story. Read the story, the gaps are there.

First, this former axe to grind employee has other motives other than the welfare of the animals in mind. Where was she when all of these abuses took place? Why didn't she stop the abuses if they were so plentiful? Why is she a former employee, did she embezzle money, was she incompetant, was she unable to restrain the animals for the veterinarians and they repremanded her? Did Dr. Carmondy refuse her sexual advances? If she was an employee she also had a responsibility to the animals. Did she confront the veterinarians personally before she went to the state board of medicine and tell them they were abusing animals? Before we crucify the veterinarian, we better know some of the facts.

Second, here at the FR we learn to ask questions and not take what is printed as hard facts until we learn the whole story. Why is this story so different when it concerns a professional such as a veterinarian instead of a politician? Why are posters assuming that we are ignorant of what an Italian Greyhound is when no one states that these animals are equated with a Greyhound? Yes, most of us know the difference.

This makes news because it is a rare case but we all know what the press will and does do to make and report the news. I am willing to bet the farm there will be found that the employee has a problem with the clinic and the abuses are probably not abuses at all but can be construed as such when some hateful former employee wants vengence. I am also willing to bet the press will give the former employee a free ride and not tell the whole story when it comes out so that the veterinarian can be exonerated by the public.

I may be wrong but I have seen far too many veterinarians embroiled in this scenario for me to accept the story as written.

57 posted on 09/06/2002 6:13:01 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Pining_4_TX
a hand slap to the butt....

Oh my god, you advocate abuse of that poor animal by hitting it on the buttocks. It is that simple to have abuse aimed at you...

Nevermind the fact that you are correct in training and schooling of a dog....

58 posted on 09/06/2002 6:16:04 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Great Dane
"This man should loose his license for good, the behavior is in the mans nature, and would not change... in my opinion."

I agree, if one ever hits any of my dogs, he'll not need that license!

59 posted on 09/06/2002 6:17:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: Pining_4_TX
In your expertise look at the photo that accompanies this article. Is that not a recipe for the choking death of a dog?
60 posted on 09/06/2002 6:17:43 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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