George W. -- Master of disguise

The New American ^ | 9-6-02 | gary benoit

[hchutch]

My mistake. Uday and Qasam, IIRC.

Need more Mountain Dew... I just call `em the brats.

[Steve0113]

Works for me, though it tends to trivialize what monsters they really are.

[general_re]

If perfect is allowed to be the enemy of good enough, then all you will get is the bad.

Turn in your freeper credentials immediately! You don't belong here! ;)

[CIB-173RDABN]

It is a no win situation to argue with the Bush bashers. Nothing is going to make them like Bush. Why bother refuting anything. These anti-Bush threads run every day, they pop up like weeds.

I currently support President Bush at this time. I do not need to provide you or anyone else with any reason why I support him.

If you guys do not like Bush, fine. Find a candidate you like, help them run for office and convice me to vote for them.

I agree with an earlier poster, there is a lot of things going on right now, I am not disapointed that President Bush can not wave a magic wand and make everything better. I understand polictics enough that the President can not be all things to all people. But if it makes you all feel better, keep complaining.

[lonestar]

If Bush was even Good Enough, I wouldn't mind....but he's not. He's only lucky he's surrounded by smart people.

Isn't surrounding himself with "smart people" smart?

[cthusker77]

Well said!!

[lonestar]

I don't believe that Bush is a domestic conservative.

He was much more conservative as governor of Texas. But Texas is more conservative than the country as a whole.

I think he's a realist.

[Windcatcher]

I have something to say about realism. I very recently had a huge argument with a friend who is a die-hard law-and order Republican (note that I'm NOT calling him a Conservative). I've known him for 25 years, and he's one of my closest friends. I know him well. He opposed the notion of voting for a third party on the grounds that they would never win, that the system absolutely couldn't be changed. The politicians "work the system", and there is nothing anyone can do about it. He called me an idealist, and himself a realist. We went on to debate the war on terror, taxes, and gun rights. I should note here that he works with cops all day and has a keen interest in law enforcement concerns. He was for mandatory registration of all firearms, on the premise that if you don't break the law, you have nothing to fear. He felt that owning anything more than a pistol or hunting rifle was too much. He felt that America should "bend other countries to our will" and should literally take over the entire world. He then went on to pronounce that people who make more money than he does (mid 40's, which in Philly isn't much) should pay a lot more taxes so people like him could be helped, since helping your fellow man was the Christian thing to do. The rationale was that they didn't need the extra money, and God says so. Never mind that it was at gunpoint, as I repeatedly pointed out. The mantra was the same: "but they don't NEED it!" He could have gone on to quote the Communist Manifesto and I wouldn't have been surprised. My point is, there is a definite place for idealism. My friend, who would sooner cut his arm off than vote Democratic, has forgotten what it means to be a Conservative and has become more of an Authoritarian. A Conservative he most definitely is not; it's all about the "Republican club", and his us-vs.-them mentality. When this sort of thing happens, I see it as a real crisis. There is a cancer that's starting to creep through our ranks. The idealists are performing a service; they're there to keep the rest of us from forgetting why we care about all this in the first place. Otherwise we might as well hang it all up.

[lonestar]

Your friends definition of "realistic" is foreign to mine. When I say "realistic" I'm talking about the Democrats not letting nominations out of committee to be voted on by the entire senate, etc.

Speaking of guns, guess who pushed the right to carry in Texas.

[Aric2000]

And Gore would have been what? Good for America, There are 2 choices in this country, Democrat or Republican. Either don't vote, which hurts, or hold your nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

Perfect does NOT exist, and if it does, it won't win, it will only allow the left to fragment the right enough to get the left into office so that thye can destroy it faster.

If I agree with you more then 60% of the time and you are running on my parties ticket, then I am going to voote for you, even if I have to hold my nose.

The libertarians, the constitutionalists, etc, will never win an election unless they get serious, and until then, I will vote republican, even if I have to hold my nose.

[Cyber Liberty]

"Why bother refuting anything."

Excellent point. Why bother chasing 0.4% of the vote? Eff 'em.

[Cyber Liberty]

"note that I'm NOT calling him a Conservative"

Noted.

Also noted is the fact that it's pointless to try and convince you of anything, so I'm going to take the lead of an intelligent politician, and ignore you completely next election.

There. Now, that certainly improved your strategic position, didn't it?

[rottweiller_inc]

On the other issues, I'll accept compromises, and we'll fix those later, when we've solved the big problems.

The problem with your so-called solution of compromise is that you never quite to develop the will to actually change anything..it's all maybe and might followed by well maybe tomorrow. Clue me into what this establishes other than the status quo?

[1rudeboy]

Oh my gosh, you're correct. I need to listen to criticism from a political fringe-group in the name of "objectivity." Can you direct me to Lyndon LaRouche's website? I need to "balance" my analysis.

[A Vast RightWing Conspirator]

I do not agree with W more than 60% of the time. In fact, I agree with him about 5% of the time, meaning that I disagree 95% of the time - can't support someone I disagree with most of the time. I probably agree with Gore 1% of the time or less.

I agree that there are only 2 'realistic' political choices today and they are both bad. The GOP must either be destroyed or suffer a major defeat for some reasonable alternative to the commie-like 2 parties of today to develop. As you may remember, the GOP had to be infiltrated for decades by conservatives before they had at least some say during Reagan years. Following Reagan, the true conservatives were replaced and their role changed from that of leaders to that of supporters - something similar to the role of Blacks in today's Demo party, where their vote is expected and taken for granted, some of their rhetoric is used when convenient and nearly nothing is given to them.

Sorry people, if you are conservatives (normal people that is) you must understand that you can no longer take over the GOP. They've learned the Reagan lesson and it won't happen again. You must leave this accursed political entity and live a dignified existence as a growing 'third party'. Today's GOP is what the Whigs used to be in the mid 1800. They must go or the country will suffer.

[A Vast RightWing Conspirator]

I understand polictics enough that the President can not be all things to all people.

Absolutely. But he CAN spend all people's resources making sure that 'no child is left behind', helping illegal Mexicans express their 'family values' by illegally settling in our country, giving away money to support African mass-murdering regimes, encouraging to commies of China to destroy whatever is left of our industrial capacity, etc., etc.

After all, it's only politics.

[Aric2000]

Sorry, but I disagree, The democrat party must go, and then the republican party which has moved left will be replaced by a party that is to the right, then we will have a 2 party system once again, the republicans on the left and the Constitutionalists or some other party on the right.

[CIB-173RDABN]

That is why I love the guy. The fact he pi$$es you off, is a bonus.

[CIB-173RDABN]

Just admit that the reason that you support going to war against Iraq is because Bush says we need to.

Works for me.

[gunshy]

What if Bush tells you to shove your head up your a**?