Home Invader Thwarted

Atlanta Journal & Constitution ^ | 9-6-02 | Staff

[Nat Turner]

Well folks so much for the anti-gun shill on "gun locks" and no guns for citizens....

by the way this is how we do it in the Peacthtree State :)

[csvset]

Some more info on the dead perp plus the perp's mother speaks....

Home Invader Shot, Killed By Tenant

Gary Menard

Jackie Menard

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Reported By: Jon Shirek
Web Editor: Manav Tanneeru
Last Modified: 9/6/2002 8:18:42 PM

Clayton County police said Friday that a man acted in self-defense when he shot and killed an armed intruder.

Gary Menard, 24, was shot after entering the apartment of John Peoples, 21, and his wife, 24-year-old Laura. John Peoples grabbed his own handgun and shot Menard, Clayton County police Lt. J.E. Turner said.

Menard knocked on the victim's door and then forced his way into the couple's apartment off Mt. Zion Road at 9:45 p.m. Thursday, according to police.

The couple told police they opened their door to Menard without first looking to see who it was because they thought a friend they were expecting was the one knocking on the door.

Menard then reportedly ordered the couple to "give it up!" Turner said.

"The couple did not know the suspect, and we think he was waiting in the area for a possible victim to come home and watched them go into the apartment," Turner said. "The couple thought the assailant was demanding money."

Peoples was able to grab his own handgun from a table, shooting the assailant in the lower torso, according to police.

“With the person coming in the apartment still pointing a weapon at him, and threatening to kill him if he did not get on the floor, at that point, Mr. Peoples was able to fire his weapon,” said Clayton County Police Maj. Doug Jewett.

So far, the police think the couple acted within the law. “Especially in this case, where someone definitely had the capability of killing, he was threatening to do so,” Jewett said.

Menard’s family, however, wants to know if Menard and Peoples might have known each other, despite what Peoples has told police.

“All I want to know is, I'm not saying it was right, I'm not saying it was wrong, you know I'm not saying anything like that, sir, but what I want is real answers. I'm hearing one side. I need to hear two sides before I put my son to rest,” said Menard’s mother, Jackie.

Police have many unanswered questions, as well. Among them: How did Menard get to the complex when had no car and lived nowhere near? Menard’s girlfriend told 11Alive News he left her around 9 p.m. with two men she did not know. If that is indeed accurate, where were those two men when the alleged home invasion and shooting took place?

Menard has a history of weapons and drug convictions. He was released from prison in January and was on probation for a cocaine possession conviction.

John and Laura Peoples have not yet returned phones calls made by 11Alive News.

Police expect to complete the investigation within a few weeks, but said that it's unlikely that charges will be filed.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Menard has a history of weapons and drug convictions. He was released from prison in January and was on probation for a cocaine possession conviction.

Hmmmm..... "Turning his life around" was missing from the description of the dead perp's life. No mention of his father either.

I'm not saying it was right, I'm not saying it was wrong.."

Earth to Jackie: Your son was wrong.

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[dansangel]

Good morning Monty,

Sorry about the late reply. I have a Beretta Custom Carry which is a slightly more compact version of the 92FS. It has a rubber grip and is a very comfortable and accurate weapon to shoot. Just too darn heavy to carry!

.45MAN has a Cougar 8045 and absolutely loves it. He wouldn't give it up for anything.

[Vigilantcitizen]

"The PPK is a blow back mechanism. It doesn't lock and that's why it recoils so hard. It's not the weight. Just for giggles, that opening sequence of "The Rifleman" is real. The Winchester 92 really did have that many rounds in it. 13 I think but I also read somewhere it was 32-20. Not sure about that one.

The ppk I shot, which I have posted a link to a pic of, did not seem to have bad recoil to me, and I have smaller hands. I had no trouble rapidly placing 5 shots into a 5 gal paint can from 25 yards, one handed, a feat which I could not repeat with my 9mm. Barrel lift was non-existant nor did the pistol pull to one side or another.

Another thing that impressed me about the little ppk, was the fact that before my friend showed me the gun and we took it to the range, it had sat for probably 25 years without a round fired through it. It flawlessly fired about 300 rounds with not a single jam.

All of this is IMHO, of course.

[Shooter 2.5]

On the 92, the slide release is held in the frame by the wooden grips. If you replaced the grips with rubber like I did, the flap of rubber is so thin, the slide release can be lost. I hope it doesn't happen to you.

[Shooter 2.5]

That frame mounted barrel makes all the difference in the world. The PPK's are incredibly accurate pistols.

The barrel has a tiny lip from the ramp to the chamber that stops me from using certain truncated hollow points.

[gitmo]

Here is a Charlotte NC man who killed an intruder. Charlotte man shoots and kills home intruder.)

[gitmo]

Under N.C. law, homeowners can use deadly force if they reasonably fear an intruder will harm someone in the house or commit a felony in the house, including rape or assault. The intruder need not be inside the home.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"Judge, jury, and executioner, eh?"

Yeah, got a problem with that?

I guess as a liberal you prefer the courts to do your killing for you. You probably want the courts to find the perp guilty and executed, but you don't have the manhood to do it yourself when necessary.

I guess we need to thin this herd anyway.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"I've dealt with that situation before. When I was grabbed on the street in America, I bit my assailant on the arm, then pinned him against the wall and broke his other arm. An ex-boyfriend of mine taught me some pretty cool self-defense moves. After I broke his arm I punched him in the ear. He was too wounded to chase me. I don't know if he was ever arrested and frankly I don't care. I bet it was a long time before he tried that again on another woman...if he ever did. I don't need a gun to defend myself...and yes, I have been shot at before."

That whole story sounds like total lie. Liberals lie like Hell, and your story is unbelieveable. "Punched him in the ear"??? Get real. You've watched too many martial arts movies.

[dansangel]

Hi Shooter,

I don't have that problem with the Custom Carry. It actually came from the gun dealer with the rubber grip. It appears the grip was made for this particular model because it is the perfect size.

Thank-you for your concern!

[Shooter 2.5]

My grips are Pachmeyer's and I still use them on the 92. I just make sure that the slide release is still there when I'm done shooting.
Taurus replaced the release for free except for the shipping.
I like the Taurus because the safety is on the frame like the 1911 instead of on the slide like the Berretta. I don't care to lose my muscle memory when I switch from one gun to another.

[dansangel]

"I don't care to lose my muscle memory when I switch from one gun to another."

I hear that which is why I'm basically reluctant to give up my Beretta for a lighter model.

I'm left-handed and the only drawback to the Custom Carry is that it came with a right-handed safety. I've learned to work around it. Meanwhile, I ordered a left-handed safety from Beretta and received it months ago, planning on taking the gun to a smith to have it put in. I've gotten so used to my work-around, that now I'm afraid to have the left-handed safety installed!

[doug from upland]

To post a "hot link" for your story on which someone can just click, it looks like this: HOME INVADER THWARTED

[doug from upland]

Whoops. I meant to send FReepmail.

[Shooter 2.5]

I'm left-handed too and all my 1911's are ambidextrous. What I hated for a while is that the safeties always came with a smaller left-handed safety than the right. The companies finally wised up and now the ones on the market today are equal. Cutting the right grip panel is a chore but I'm used to doing that.

[dansangel]

Most of Beretta's other models are ambidextrous. .45MAN has a Cougar 8045 and it has an ambi safety. It just so happened I fell in love with the one Beretta model that doesn't.

By the way, thank-you for addressing the safety issue in such a rational manner. I have come across so many people that think it's "wimpy" to have an actual safety lever on a gun. I carry my gun in a Coronado shoulder bag designed for conceal carry. Let's face it, guns in purses get jostled around. I want to know that my firearm is not going to accidently discharge. Mentally, having an actual safety lever gives me that peace of mind.

[Shooter 2.5]

I love having safeties on my guns.
That hammer pulled back on the 1911's made a believer out of me.
Tip: Every time you go to the range make sure your safeties work with a live round. Pointed downrange, of course.

I did notice that women do have a problem carrying concealed with short torsos or wide hips. Of course, we have a IDPA instuctor who's health problems are so bad, he claims he can't carry concealed. That simply isn't true because he's trying to play the game and not work at speeding his times up.
I can carry in all weather with the Galco IWB holster. From hot weather to cold, it's under a larger t-shirt, then a larger shirt, then a larger sweater, then a coat that doesn't have a liner. On a long bike trip, I use a fanny pack that has a holster inside for bad dogs.

[dansangel]

"Tip: Every time you go to the range make sure your safeties work with a live round. Pointed downrange, of course."

What excellent advice! I have checked other things at the range. For instance, every once in a while I feel the need to make sure the gun cannot fire if there's no cartridge in the chamber. So, I'll drop the magazine, clear the chamber and snap the magazine back in. Pull the trigger and voila! The gun doesn't fire. This is a tip I got from Paxton Quigley's book, "Armed and Female." She advocates this technique in a house with children (mine is 25, but SHE may have children one day) rather than using trigger locks, etc... things that will get you killed in an emergency situation. So, I know I have to rack the slide before I can fire and I have practiced doing that so it becomes second nature.

Checking the safety is something I have done in the past, but have not made a practice of. Good advice! Thank-you.