Russian troops Water
This is an airplane with WATER coming out. Not Russian troops.
Posted on 08/28/2002 6:22:55 PM PDT by 2sheep
Any astute Freepers recognize this guy's name?
Also, before anyone asks, no scuba diver was ever sucked into one of these planes and dumped into a forest fire. It's an urban legend. The harvest intakes on these planes wouldn't allow a monkey through, let alone a human. How do I know this? I toured one in Canada two years ago and asked the tour guide about the story. He laughed and then debunked the story for about the hundredth time.
This plane is a real marvel, and so are the pilots. They not only have to be excellent pilots, they are also trained in photogrammetry so that they can from the air recognize "good" water and "bad" water in which to skim their planes (they don't actually land, but scoop up water on the run).
The current fire fighting cost here in Oregon could possibly have been saved along with a lot of wilderness area if this plane had been given a chance at any time since the fire started.
I guess the person(s) making the decisions on this plane feel the $116 million and growing cost for the Biscuit fire is better then looking at new technics.
Job security?
Russian troops Water
This is an airplane with WATER coming out. Not Russian troops.
"It's like wasting water," Walsh said. "Water is not a commodity we can just dump hundreds of thousands of gallons of and not worry about running out, especially in drought conditions."
Yes.
It is a sign of the great falling away, the apostacy that has reduced the nation to a shadow. Amongst G~d's promises to the disobedient and wicked is to send evil rulers to rule over them and then to send foreign enemies to conquer them. Deut. 28 and lots of other places. He also sends them and their leaders spiritual blindness. Blind leaders of the blind who can't SEE to put out the fire are evil. This decision about refusing a remedy to the fire situation may be in accordance with G~d's plan of judgment. A remedy is offered and blind leaders refuse it.
Pr 6:15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.
Pr 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.
Boneyard = graveyard. It should give each American pause to think when it is apparent that Russia is ready, able and willing and the American government is not. I thought the comment in the article at the top about this being "political" was important. What do the globalists have to gain by destroying the country through incompetence. Perhaps get rid of forests so they can stripmine the ground?
The Il-76 does have the navigator(who controls the drop)'s Bomb-aimer station in the nose
Fire bombinng operations in the Il-76
few of lower flight time aircraft
Not sure such a beastie exists for the C-141, they've all been well-used since the '60s.
I have to give the Russians credit on this one. Looks like an impressive piece of hardware. As usual, what their aircraft lack in sophistication, they make up in brute size and payload. Those guys can sure build some big airplanes and helicopters!
BTW, I read recently that Boeing has a group of ~500 Russian engineers on the payroll at a facility in Moscow.
However the Russkis do also build a fire fighting amphibian, the Be-200 
While not in the Il-76 class, the Be-200, with a droppable load of 3300 gal, is still a pretty impressive big bomber.
Sikorsky le Grand, Tupelov Maxim Gorky, Antonov An-225 Mriya, if you need a big aircraft, think Russian.
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