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CNN: Man indicted in Seattle on charges of setting up Oregon training camp for al Qaeda members.
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Posted on 08/28/2002 2:28:08 PM PDT by jern

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To: jern
Ujaama? Sleeper cell? What do they do, wear p'ujaamas?
21 posted on 08/28/2002 4:00:46 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: WHATNEXT?
Yup, that's the one.
22 posted on 08/28/2002 5:12:59 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: jern
Man indicted in Seattle on charges of setting up Oregon training camp for al Qaeda members.

Is he a democrat? State or Fed government?

23 posted on 08/28/2002 5:16:05 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: jern
This includes a link to the indictment.

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:21 p.m. Pacific

Ujaama indicted on charges of supporting al-Qaida

By David Heath
Seattle Times staff reporter

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A federal grand jury in Seattle today indicted James Ujaama for conspiring to support al-Qaida terrorism.

Ujaama, who grew up in Seattle and moved to London six years ago, provided "training, facilities, computer services, safehouses, and personnel" to al-Qaida as part of a conspiracy to "destroy property and murder and maim persons located outside the United States," according to the indictment.

The indictment also detailed the activities of three unnamed co-conspirators, who have not been charged. Federal sources identified three men as radical London cleric Abu Hamza and two of his associates.

Ujaama attempted to set up a terrorist training camp on a remote ranch in Bly, Oregon, in the fall of 1999, the indictment said. Ujaama also told others he had attended al-Qaida training camps, according to the indictment.

The government charges that Ujaama led discussions in Bly and in Seattle about committing armed robberies, building underground bunkers to hide weapons, creating poisons for public consumption and firebombing vehicles.

"If I have broken any laws and am guilty of crimes against the American people, then I must be held accountable," Ujaama said in a statement late yesterday. "The fact is that I am innocent of any wrongdoing and am fully prepared to face my accusers and defend myself in a court of law."

The investigation is continuing and more indictments are expected, federal sources said.

Ujaama sent a fax to Abu Hamza in London that compared the Bly property to Afghanistan's terrain, proposed storing weapons there, and invited Abu Hamza to use it as a safehouse, according to today's indictment.

Abu Hamza sent two emissaries to check out the ranch, the indictmen said. They arrived in New York on Nov. 26, 1999, and traveled to Bly through Seattle. One of the emissaries, identified by sources as Oussama Kassir, identified himself as a "hit man" for Usama bin Laden.

In December or January, 2000, Ujaama returned to London to work on Abu Hamza's Web site, the indictment said.

The grand jury also returned a second count against Ujaama for discharging a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence.

Ujaama was arrested July 22 at his aunt's home in Denver as a material witness to terrorist activity. He is being held in Alexandria Adult Detention Center in Virginia, where a federal grand jury is pursuing terrorism cases.

The material witness statute allows authorities to hold persons nearly indefinitely if they have important information to a case and are believed to be at a risk to flee.

Copyright © 2002 The Seattle Times Company

24 posted on 08/28/2002 5:22:34 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Libertina
Yipes, stories like this make me grateful for our recent departure of WA. Scary stuff....
25 posted on 08/28/2002 5:34:51 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Libertina
You said..."And no surprise to hear Oregon is a training ground. (Home of ELF,Ruckus, WTO protestors... IOW - LIBERAL extremists."

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AMEN to that.

They will probably get and *Out OF Jail* Free card from out Govenor.

26 posted on 08/28/2002 5:37:09 PM PDT by joyce11111
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Where in rural Oregon???

27 posted on 08/28/2002 5:38:20 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Catspaw; honway; Wallaby; Fred Mertz
thanx for the details. fyi.
28 posted on 08/28/2002 6:42:03 PM PDT by thinden
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To: The Vast Right Wing
LOL!
29 posted on 08/28/2002 7:02:23 PM PDT by adam stevens
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To: Catspaw; thinden; rdavis84; mancini; 2sheep; aristeides
Ujaama sent a fax to Abu Hamza in London that compared the Bly property to Afghanistan's terrain, proposed storing weapons there, and invited Abu Hamza to use it as a safehouse, according to today's indictment.

Thanks for the article post, Catspaw.

About two years ago there were three ME types that apparently began the process of purchase a country lot down the road from me (less than a quarter mile). I know because I walked my dog by that lot in the early evening when they were walking the ground. They were in their mid to late twenties. I chatted with one of the three and introduced myself and my dog. They never settled in. I may have scared them off, but every once in a while I think to myself, I suppose they could have been some of them.

Most likely they weren't, but your never know.

30 posted on 08/28/2002 7:30:51 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: thinden; OKCSubmariner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/724339/posts

Feds Arrest Al Qaeda Suspects With Plans to Poison Water Supplies on Them

Here's more information on James Ujaama, another U.S born Muslim convert. The connection to the three term Mayor of Denver is interesting and there could be a possible connection with the ME types at the OK water treatment facility.

31 posted on 08/28/2002 7:53:47 PM PDT by honway
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WASHINGTON — Federal officials have arrested two Al Qaeda terror suspects in the U.S. with documents in their possession about how to poison the country's water supplies, Fox News has learned.


The first case involves James Ujaama, who surrendered to the FBI last week in Denver. Sources say they found documents about water poisoning among several other terrorism-related documents in his Denver residence.

Sources say the government has additional evidence that prior to Sept. 11 James Ujaama acted as a courier delivering laptop computers to the Taliban
32 posted on 08/28/2002 7:56:13 PM PDT by honway
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To: jern

James Ernest Ujaama (or James Ernest Thompson)

33 posted on 08/28/2002 8:05:39 PM PDT by honway
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James Ujaama was arrested Monday at his grandmother's home. Mustafa Ujaama said he did not know what was on the disks that were taken from the home. One of the computers belonged to Mustafa Ujaama and the other was his son's, he said.

FBI spokesman John Lipka confirmed that agents went to the grandmother's house but would not say why. "We are in furtherance of an active investigation," he said.

Holding a person as a material witness — someone believed to have important information — allows federal authorities to keep him in custody indefinitely.

Federal authorities speaking on condition of anonymity have said authorities believe James Ujaama took computer equipment to an Al Qaeda terrorist camp in Afghanistan. They said authorities also were investigating whether James Ujaama trained at the camp.

Earlier news reports said James Ujaama was taken to Virginia after his arrest, but his lawyer, Daniel J. Sears, said he was jailed in Denver. Justice officials have refused to confirm where he was being held.

Sears said James Ujaama had not been charged with any crime. He said a hearing has been scheduled to review the legality of the detention, but he could not say where or when. He said his client is outspoken and has publicly disagreed with the government on Middle East issues.

"I hope we have not advanced to the point in this country where we are jailing people because the government may disagree with their beliefs," Sears said.

Agents arrived at the home at about 5 p.m. and spent about two hours inside. Mustafa Ujaama said they had a warrant.

The brothers moved to Denver this month from Seattle. Mustafa Ujaama was detained briefly on Monday when his brother was arrested.

Their aunt, Robin Thompson, stood outside the home during the search.

"They could have done this in Seattle. We are Americans. I don't know why they're doing this," she said.

The brothers were born James Ernest Thompson and Jon Thompson and grew up in Seattle. Some community leaders there have credited them with helping to rid their poor, black neighborhood of drugs and prostitution by recruiting former gang members and others into the Dar-us-Salaam mosque.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

34 posted on 08/28/2002 8:10:58 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
Rocky Mountain News:

"FBI Detains Former Relative of Mayor Webb in connection with Alleged ties to bin Laden"

Mayor Webb's granddaughter(15 years old) was in the house during the police raid associated with the investigation of James Ujaama(born James Ernest Thompson).

James Ujaama(the former relative in the headline) is the mayor's grandaughter's cousin. The home that was raided was maintained by the mayor's former daughter-n-law.


35 posted on 08/28/2002 8:15:13 PM PDT by honway
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From Rocky Mountain News:

The other complaint this week came from (Denver) Mayor Wellington Webb.

He called me, very unhappy with the front-page headlines about the arrest of a Denver native in the war on terror. The banner wasn't the problem. But a smaller headline below said "FBI detains former relative of Mayor Webb in connection with alleged ties to bin Laden."

Now the reality is that I like the mayor. He was a good friend to Gene Amole in his final months, and his aide, Andrew Hudson, was instrumental in organizing the celebration of Gene's life and the renaming of Elati Street outside our building in Gene's honor.

But that doesn't mean we always agree.

And one thing the mayor definitely disagrees with me on is the relevance of his relationship to the terror suspect.

The mayor told me he thinks we intentionally stretch as far we can to make him look bad. It's the way the mayor has felt for years - so I knew his call would be coming.

Andrew wrote me that the headline was "hurtful and completely unnecessary."

"I'm just terribly disappointed and surprised that you would allow this to happen."

I feel differently. You see, I think it's pretty darn interesting that the raid occurred in a home now maintained by the ex-wife of the mayor's son, Allen Sr. We're talking about a terror suspect here. Not a burglar.

What made the connection even more unusual was that the mayor's granddaughter, cousin to James Ujaama, was in the house.

"Neighbors said the mayor's 15-year-old granddaughter, Jaime, ran out of the surrounded home," our story reported.

The teen-ager was hysterical and alleged that officers had put a gun to her head, neighbors said. (Police later denied that.)

"She was crying and really scared."

So: Cops put a gun to the head of the mayor's granddaughter in a house belonging to the family of her mother, who is the ex-wife of the mayor's son.

Seems pretty interesting to me.
36 posted on 08/28/2002 8:22:14 PM PDT by honway
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To: anniegetyourgun
They have been talking about this for months. This is not something new, it just took a while to pin down all the particulars. If you remember that map that was posted on here in the months following 9/11 showed two cells of terrorists in the Seattle area.
37 posted on 08/28/2002 10:15:51 PM PDT by Eva
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To: WHATNEXT?
Training camp was proposed for Bly Oregon in the Sprague Valley. Funny thing: Bly was the site of the only casualties of the Japanese high altitude balloon attacks on the US forests of the Northwest during WW II. (Too bad they hadn't coopted the Sierra Club-it would have been easier).
38 posted on 08/29/2002 9:58:23 AM PDT by tomswiftjr
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To: jern
I stopped in the Maryland Heights, MO (St. Louis area) radio shack last night. It is right in the heart of our "peaceful" islamic area. There is a nearby mosque, and the nearby large apartment complexes are teaming with foreign muslim residents. Several were there in radio shack shopping. I asked the salesguy whether this particular radio shack was the preferred regional al-qaeda radio detonator supplier. By his nervous chuckle, I could tell it wasn't the first time he had thought about it.
39 posted on 08/29/2002 3:12:01 PM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: Libertina
You're thinking of his buddy Ron Sims. Now, I've met Ron on a couple of occasions - he's a nice guy, but not the brightest bulb on the string. Definitely old-school Seattle apparatchik, though, which speaks volumes.

The Dar Es Salaam temple, for those who might wonder, was a real strange place - took over a nasty block and ran the drug pushers out very effectively by violence and intimidation, including beatings and pistol-whippings. Nobody said much because they figured it was better than pushers on the streetcorners, but that was then...

40 posted on 08/29/2002 3:22:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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