Top US general attacks hawks' strategy on Iraq

Telegraph UK ^ | 8/23/02 | By David Rennie in Washington and Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor

[Theyknow]

I saw this in another political cite which will remain nameless so that everyone can keep their lunch down. Anyway, it did raise a question for me, what it the real deal with the military and the President's plans for Iraq? I'm fairly new at following it, but is the problem just the media reporting?

[Marianne]

BTTT

[OldFriend]

IMHO, the real deal is that the force restructuring ordered by Rumsfeld has some with their knickers in a twist.

[cynicom]

Might be interesting to see what promotions Jones received during Clintons reign.....

[Theyknow]

What does BTTT mean?

[Dog]

Here you go.....

General James L. Jones

[bulldawg]

Jones, the four-star commander of the Marine Corps who will be taking over as Nato's supreme allied commander, was clearly addressing high-ranking conservatives in and around the Pentagon.

If he was arguing with political appointees at the Pentagon he would be relieved of his duties immediately. Every professional soldier knows that. This story, coming from the Guardian, is either completely BS or his words were taken out of context.

[Wolfstar]

BTTT = back to the top. When someone doesn't want to write a comment on a tread, but wants to assist in keeping the thread going, they will "bump" it back to the top of the Browse page.

[cynicom]

Friend...

The good general was on a fast track from day one....

Brig Gen 1992

Mjr Gen 1994

LT Gen 1996

General 1999

He did do some time in Vietnam but appears to have had an inside with someone according to his promotion record.

[cynicom]

Dog....

Thanks, was there aready. I checked on Franks the other day also. He said he made the military his career cause he liked being saluted. I stopped reading after that.

[philosofy123]

Islam, the religion, teaches hostility to non-Moslem, that is not much different from any other religion teaching of superiority of their way of thinking or believing. The difference are 1) most other religions started to deemphasize the hate to others, and Islam failed to do so, and 2)most religions do not have the luxury of state support with billions of dollars budgeted to teach hate as well as networking of militants to force that religion down the throat of others. Now these two fundamental reasons are why the Islamists became a world-wide terror to be contended with. If the US fails to recognize that, and starts to waste time and effort on changing dictatorship in Iraq, then we have people in charge who fail to understand the big picture. First, we must recognize that all the Moslem fanatic nations are authoritarian dictatorship of one sort or another. For Example Mr. Mubarak of Egypt can swear all day that he has a democracy, but he has been in office for more than 20 years, and keep getting 99% of the votes during the charade game they call election. Therefore, all these dictators who are able to govern with an iron fist, and forbid criticism of their government should also be able to FORBID CRITISISM OF THE US, AND ISRAEL! Second, We should disregard the concept of “interfering in internal affairs of other nations”, if the internal affairs of these nations is to incite hate against us. To conclude, the US was given a tremendous sympathy, and sense of support from most of the world after 9/11. We needed that to help chase the flow of funds that supports the terrorist Islamic cells. Less than a year later, with the cells still operating in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Philippine, as well as the marathon fundraising in Saudi Arabia, we are disregarding our main mission, and focusing on “changing the government of Iraq”. The world that was 100% behind us in combating the terrorists is now 100% against us in invading Iraq! How inept can you get in wasting worldwide goodwill into a worldwide hate? Again, the US should focus on Islamic terrorist groups and the venomous hate from the Moslem clerics. We must dictate to these dictators: “You employ these clerics, you are responsible for their hate preaching”--- if that continue, we will make you pay! JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!

[Dog]

He was an aide to that boob William Cohen..

[philosofy123]

The military are stupid, the French are stupid, the German aree stupid, the British are stupid, the Canadians are stupid, Collin Powell/RichardArmitage/Kissiger/Scowcroft/Robert Novak/Pat Buchanan/...these people are stupid? Who is smart then; well Mr. Perle/Kristo/Cal thomas/....

If it was up to me, I would side with the first group. They are real intellectuals, and not foaming at the mouth neocons

[Theyknow]

Why do it then?

[Dog]

Do what???

[OldFriend]

That explains it ALL........no doubt Rumsfeld has early retirement planned for this prince.

[1Old Pro]

Gen Jones is the latest in a succession of prominent American military and political figures to issue warnings about the dangers of rushing headlong into war.

Sounds to me like he doesn't oppose a war, he just wants more troops.

[1Old Pro]

Brig Gen 1992 Mjr Gen 1994 LT Gen 1996 General 1999 He did do some time in Vietnam but appears to have had an inside with someone according to his promotion record

Klintoon?

[philosofy123]

I don't think it is the time to invade Iraq. Our forces should focus on Moslem jihadists. I support invading Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Egypt first before I would invade Iraq. The Islamic hate is the cause of all these suiside bombers and terrorists. The hate comes from these counties and Sudan, Pakistan, Lybia, Somalia, Yemen, just to name a few. Let us go after all these worthless counties first before Iraq!

[Dog]

Read the bio I posted....seems he worked as an aide for.........Cohen!