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Why I won't vote for Bob Barr
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Posted on 08/19/2002 9:45:01 AM PDT by ruppertdog

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Good website with a lot of good and accurate information for GA voters. I am not a Ralph Reed fan - he is the republican Carville - an agressive spinner and will do anything to win. His groups campaign dirty and the voters here are sick of it, or at least they were last year with Bobby Reese in the state senate. They are out of touch and are killing the GOP in GA.
1 posted on 08/19/2002 9:45:01 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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And we should all take your word for it about Barr and Reed?
2 posted on 08/19/2002 9:55:48 AM PDT by OldFriend
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not my word- the facts say it all. Also, Reed's recent history parallels Carville ( along with his tactics) - not a lot of success.
3 posted on 08/19/2002 10:09:31 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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No need getting all lathered up. Either Linder or Barr will win, the district will continue to have fine Republican representation in Congress, and either will work with Ralph Reed to help the Republican Party of Georgia knock a few more democrats out of office.

I'm not sure who I would vote for if I lived in that district. (Isackson is my representative) If Linder loses, I'm sure the RNC or President Bush will offer him an important position in the administration. If Barr loses, I don't think the same would hold true, but Barr would easily become a powerful talking head/voice/lobbyist for the political right. (Hey!! Maybe MSNBC could hire him to help em get some viewers.)

4 posted on 08/19/2002 10:11:00 AM PDT by YaYa123
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Your (mis-)take on Ralph Reed and your author's pinheadial misreprestation of and personal problems with Lou Sheldon in combination would make your opinion rancid and valueless to me, were it in my power to vote for impeachment hero Barr.

Dan

5 posted on 08/19/2002 10:11:24 AM PDT by BibChr
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Yeah, Reed's success in actually getting people elected really sucks.
6 posted on 08/19/2002 10:14:03 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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Accurate information my a$$. Lookit this:

Linder's anti-gun vote revealed

There is a reference to the house record for the vote.

7 posted on 08/19/2002 10:14:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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I hate to have to choose from between the two, but I really don't like the party insiders in GA
8 posted on 08/19/2002 10:18:52 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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Hi OldFriend,

"Ralph E. Reed, Jr.
Chairman, Georgia Republican Party

Ralph Reed is Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party and is founder and president of Century Strategies, a public affairs and public relations firm.

Ralph has advised dozens of successful candidates for U.S. Senate, Congress, and Governor nationwide. Among his previous clients: the George W. Bush for President campaign, U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Conference chairman J.C. Watts, Senator Richard Shelby, and Senator Paul Coverdell.

In the 1980’s he served as chairman of the College Republicans of Georgia, executive director of the College Republican National Committee, and co-chairman of the youth effort for President Ronald Reagan’s re-election campaign.

In 1994 he played a critical role in the election of the first Republican Congress in 40 years. He has worked on six presidential campaigns, most recently serving as a senior advisor to the campaign of President George W. Bush in 2000.

In the spring of 2001 Ralph was elected Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party. In his role as state party chairman, he has played an important role in grassroots organization, fundraising, and candidate recruitment.

During Ralph’s tenure, the Georgia Republican Party has increased its donor base from 12,000 active donors to over 20,000, while increasing membership in the Georgia Republican Foundation from 180 members to over 750 members. The GRP reported more contributions and funds raised since Reed’s election than at any time in the Party’s history.

In addition, Reed has led the launching of the Georgia Volunteer Leader program, which has included dozens of training seminars across the state that have graduated roughly 2,000 grassroots activists from precinct training seminars.

As executive director of the Christian Coalition in the 1990’s, he built one of the most effective grassroots organizations in modern American politics. During his tenure, the organization’s budget grew from $200,000 to $27 million, and its support base grew from two thousand to two million members and supporters in thousands of local chapters.

Acknowledged as one of the most important political strategists in America today, Ralph has been named one of the top ten political newsmakers in the nation by Newsweek, one of the fifty future leaders in the country by Time magazine, and one of the twenty most influential leaders of the baby-boom generation by Life magazine.

He received his B.A. from the University of Georgia and a Ph.D. in history from Emory University. He is the best-selling author and editor of three books, and his columns have appeared in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. He currently serves on the Board of Directors of Support Technologies. He and his wife Jo Anne live with their four children in Duluth, Georgia. They are members of Perimeter Church."

Georgians can disagree without being disagreeable, one hopes, and I for one, don't see anything Carvillian about Ralph Reed.

9 posted on 08/19/2002 10:19:50 AM PDT by YaYa123
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I know what you mean about "insiders". Aggravating to the max...but hey, every organization has em.
10 posted on 08/19/2002 10:24:41 AM PDT by YaYa123
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Thanks.....I was more than a little suspicious of the poster.......

Ralph Reed worked hard on the energy deregulation bill for Pennsylvania which is considered a model for the entire country.

Further, I have never ever heard the man utter a negative word about others. He prefers to state his point and case without tearing down others.

Just a FYI.....I'm neither a member of the Christian Coaltion or a resident of Pennsylvania.

11 posted on 08/19/2002 10:24:41 AM PDT by OldFriend
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I know what you mean about "insiders". Aggravating to the max...but hey, every organization has em.
12 posted on 08/19/2002 10:24:42 AM PDT by YaYa123
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So Reed is OK, even if his paid consultants libel opposition candidates, supporters and activists like they have in county commission and state house and senate races in the past? Is this who should hold all of the power in the state when the GOP takes the GA house? Barr is certainly an Impeachment hero, but I won't vote for him given the alternative. He should have run in the 11th anyway, instead a Democrat gets it. Whoever wins this primary will be in Congress forever.
13 posted on 08/19/2002 10:26:06 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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yeah - it worked in 1994, just like it worked for carville in 1996. The style of politics they employ is dated, and lately Reed has not been doing so well. (like Carville) I do admire his attempt to take control and organize the GOP, even though his methods stink.
14 posted on 08/19/2002 10:28:47 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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During the corrupt and criminal Clinton Administration, Barr was virtually unequalled in his mature consistancy in calling for redress through constitutional means. He never let his rhetoric rule, he never flagged, and he stood with honor. To forget that service would be a loss to the community he represents.
15 posted on 08/19/2002 10:28:54 AM PDT by KC Burke
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At least he is a presbyterian!
16 posted on 08/19/2002 10:45:58 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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To Sheldon's 2nd statement, John Linder has an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association. Kinda tough to rank him alongside people like John Conyers and Tom Daschle with that kind of voting record.

Yeah - like that "A" rating from the NRA means anything. RINO Jim Kolbe in Arizona District 8 is no friend to gun owners, has voted for such things as the Brady Bill, Assault Weapons Ban, etc. yet he still garners "A" ratings from the too-politicized NRA. In this Primary Election, the NRA Pols decided to endorse RINO Kolbe instead of far more conservative pro-2nd amendment challenger Jim Behnke. Local NRA members were vocally against their plan to endorse Kolbe, but their complaints fell on deaf ears. Apparently, the NRA would rather "sure thing" instead of backing the more worthy candidate in such a race. Their ratings and endorsements are meaningless, if you ask me. And the NRA hasn't found a single foundational principle that they won't back down on to appease the gun grabbers

17 posted on 08/19/2002 10:49:50 AM PDT by Spiff
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Linder gets C- from Gunowners of America. Barr gets an A. GOA is tougher on it's RKBA ratings. Linder must have actually sponsored some anti-Second legislation to merit a C-. Please see www.gunowners.org
18 posted on 08/19/2002 11:15:19 AM PDT by donozark
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If "style" is defined as the difference between an adult and a child, then, yes, the difference between the two campaigns for Tuesday's August Primary is all a matter of style. John Linder and his supporters represent the Adults, and Bob Barr and his supporters are Children who run around making-up stories about people who won't pay attention to them.

It's a little difficult to take any of the article seriously with an opening like this. When you label your opponents as name-calling children in the opening sentence it sort of sets the tone for the rest of the "article".

19 posted on 08/19/2002 12:03:08 PM PDT by Cable225
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Bob Barr has never diverged from his conservative position. This seems to bother quite a few people that consider themselves conservatives. If Linder has agreed to hire homosexual aides to satisfy that constituency, and has promoted gun regulation, a conservative would be well advised to examine his ideology.

Maybe he should be politically active in the Democratic party where his views were more in line with his associates. I feel that a person should follow his conscience and be with like-minded associates rather than trying to influence a different party into changing their mainstream objectives.

20 posted on 08/19/2002 12:21:35 PM PDT by meenie
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