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Is Gray Davis Looting California Retirement Funds?
California State Assembly Republican Caucus ^ | August 18, 2002 | the calpowercrisis gang

Posted on 08/18/2002 4:55:44 AM PDT by snopercod

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A link to this information was posted on another thread relating to the energy bonds.

Ernest_at_the_Beach noticed the "PERS loan" at the bottom of the table, and questioned whether Davis was "borrowing" from CalPERS, the retirement plan for state employees.

It seems like he has been dipping into the CalPERS till, and the State Teachers Retirement System [STRS] to boot.

So I am spinning this off as a seperate thread regarding the fiscal rape of California working people.

1 posted on 08/18/2002 4:55:44 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 08/18/2002 4:58:04 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: All
PERS=California Public Employees Retirement System

STRS=State Teachers Retirement System

TCRP=Transportation Congestion Relief Program

Also, there was a thread a while back about Davis "borrowing" from the Dentists retirement plan.

3 posted on 08/18/2002 5:09:53 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp
From the CALTRANS site:

Chapter 783, Statues of 1999 (AB 1012, Torlakson)

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. (a) The Legislature finds and declares all of the following: (1) The voters at the November 3, 1998, general election passed Proposition 2 to stop future diversion of transportation funds for nontransportation purposes by a 75 percent majority vote, thus indicating overwhelming support for using these funds on needed transportation improvements.

Do Davis's "emergency powers" allow him to disregard a voter iniative like Prop. 2?

4 posted on 08/18/2002 5:25:11 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: snopercod
Good analysis, as usual. CalPERS has taken a steep decline in value over the past year or so due to the stock market decline. Do you know what the value of CalPERS is at present?

It might be useful to forward your info and analysis to Dan Walters at the SacBee. He's written some good columns explosing the corruption and mismanagement of the Davis Administration.

I'm surprised Davis has only borrowed a billion or two from the state worker's and teacher's funds. Perhaps he didn't want it to be noticed. Or perhaps he got permission and sanction from the CalPERS board to do this. I wonder, because didn't he insult them by asking them for campaign donations before he granted them a favor they were asking of him? Maybe borrowing from the pension fund was part of the quid pro quo.

5 posted on 08/18/2002 5:40:15 AM PDT by randita
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To: snopercod
PERS Loan=? PERSonal Loan for the campaign??
6 posted on 08/18/2002 5:54:14 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: randita
I don't know much about how CalPERS has performed. I did find this, though:
As of April 30, 2002, approximately 16.0 percent of CalPERS total assets are invested in California. The following breakdown illustrates CalPERS investments in California:

Interesting that as fiduciaries, they would use the word "committments".

It would probably be better for somebody who actually lives in CA to contact Waters. I'm skeptical about those presstitutes, anyway.

7 posted on 08/18/2002 6:01:12 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: snopercod
According to this article, the value of CalPERS peaked at $178 billion, but now is worth $145 billion. More info can be found at this thread (which I posted, ironically, but forgot about):

Link

8 posted on 08/18/2002 8:50:54 AM PDT by randita
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the fiscal rape of California working people.

In the aggregate, the $58 Billion worth of borrowing reflected in the budget will result in total costs of $108 billion over the 30-year life of the borrowings.


Imagine What 8 Years of GraYouT in the White House would do to this country? Why IS he doing this to California? Does he really hate us or is he just insensitive and uncaring and manipulative by nature? Sad anyway you look at it.


Bring on the Debates!!!
DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists



GO SIMON

9 posted on 08/18/2002 8:59:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: snopercod
Great work!!!
10 posted on 08/18/2002 11:08:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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11 posted on 08/18/2002 11:10:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I missed the looting of retirement funds bit.
12 posted on 08/18/2002 11:11:32 AM PDT by Torie
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Me too. Is he borrowing FROM the retirement accounts, or is he borrowing FOR the retirement accounts?

Either way, it's a sign that we as a state are headed for default. Most of the private money in the state will leave rather than face the massive tax increases required just to service the $58B in loans. Our budget deficit larger than the Federal deficit on an aggregate population basis.

13 posted on 08/18/2002 11:23:52 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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PERS Loan $1.029 Billion $231 Million $7 Billion

No problem with that?

14 posted on 08/18/2002 11:24:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: monkeyshine
Our budget deficit larger than the Federal deficit on an aggregate population basis.

Do we count the illegals or just the taxpayers?

15 posted on 08/18/2002 11:26:09 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I assume that means Public Employee Retirement Savings or something.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 11:26:51 AM PDT by Torie
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To: monkeyshine
Have the Pubbies layed out in detail what they would do, or are they just carping?
17 posted on 08/18/2002 11:27:42 AM PDT by Torie
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To: snopercod
"It seems like he has been dipping into the CalPERS till, and the State Teachers Retirement System [STRS] to boot."

Well it would seem only fitting that two groups who are major supporters of the Party of Looters, the public employees and the teachers get to be including in the rape.
18 posted on 08/18/2002 11:37:15 AM PDT by Kozak
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My wife has money in those retirement funds!

She is not happy to hear about the Governor raiding them!

I suspect many other teachers will feel the same way!

19 posted on 08/18/2002 11:40:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As a participant, you wife has a right to inquire regarding these "loans". Hint...hint...
20 posted on 08/18/2002 12:16:24 PM PDT by snopercod
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