Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy

The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

[San Jacinto]

I suspect the only thing these Saudi royals are fanatic about is -- MONEY

That is very naive. They have had the money for a long time, so it is easy to take money for granted. The really important issues are religious purity and Muslim credibility (i.e., relevance). Bin Laden is their man.

[maui_hawaii]

Heve you ever heard of a guy named Michael Pillsbury? Really and truly I have deep admiration for him. He's goooood.

He wrote a book about how the Chinese think about the world and based it all on modern Chinese writings. Its free and on the internet if you're interested in reading it.

It will explain fully where AIG's stupidity originates from.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"My point was that if Israel hasn't been successful in fighting terrorism, despite all its efforts, what makes you think America will be?"

Ah, could it be because we're willing---and able--- to do whatever it takes wherever we need to do it?

[AIG]

China's rise to the country with the second biggest population of Internet users was reported by Gartner Group, a US market tracking firm, several weeks ago. Pretty soon, there'll be more Chinese internet users than American.

[Torie]

America's influence in the world is declining as we speak due to its needless abrasivenes

What really annoys you is that American influence is still at almost dictat levels. You are not really concerned about the decline in American influence, even if that ersatz notion were true. You would celebrate that no?

[Texasforever]

America's influence in the world is declining as we speak due to its needless abrasiveness. Let's also not forget that America's budget deficit this year will be somewhere like $400-500 bil., so where's the money gonna come from?

The same place we got it when Reagan spent your ex-brothers the Soviets into oblivion.

[San Jacinto]

...you should listen to your own military's opinion about attacking Iraq.

Right on , Bro! Hoo-yah!

(It's an American thing. You will have to look it up.)

[Torie]

Plus the deficit numbers cited are bogus, but that is a side issue.

[FreeReign]

It is also interesting to see that veterans like Hagel and now General Schwarzkopf have come out with warning flags that this upcoming campaign is unwise.

What is the Schwarzkopf quote on this?

[AIG]

Israel should have a peace treaty with the Palestinians. During the 7 years of Oslo, Israel's economy really flowered, but now Israel's economy has been flushed down the toilet. As I said before, the only healthy part of Israel's economy is its arms industry, thanks to its biggest customer, China.

[Texasforever]

China's rise to the country with the second biggest population of Internet users was reported by Gartner Group, a US market tracking firm, several weeks ago. Pretty soon, there'll be more Chinese internet users than American.

What are you doing with that access? I don't want to speak ill of your country but that is a real sad boast if that is all ya got.

[general_re]

America's influence in the world is declining as we speak due to its needless abrasiveness.

You really believe that, don't you? Haven't you figured it out yet? This lovely Euro-style discourse where we all sit down for tea and crumpets and try to persuade the other fellow to see things our way is not the operant paradigm any more.

Let's also not forget that America's budget deficit this year will be somewhere like $400-500 bil., so where's the money gonna come from?

Europe, China, and the rest of Asia. I'll start worrying about that when your countrymen lose their taste for T-bills. Don't wait by the phone for that call, either...

[Torie]

Israel should have a peace treaty with the Palestinians

Ya, no kidding. How might that be achieved? Arafat blew out the last chance for it with Barak. You do remember that don't you? Stop speaking in airy and empty generalities.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Pretty soon, there'll be more Chinese internet users than American."

And freedom will spread to China...yeah!

[AIG]

I like Michael Pillsbury too. He is one of the "panda-huggers." Rumsfeld's changed his tune on China too by hiring Pillsbury because China's growing economic importance is not something that can be fought militarily but just has to be lived with.

[AdA$tra]

...willing---and able--- to do whatever it takes wherever we need to do it...

A lot of talk for the last few days about Israel ready to jump in if Iraq drags them in this time around. Nobody really complaining about it yet either. Maybe tomorrow they will. The Arab countries cannot even gang up on Israel alone and win. Imagine the one-two punch affect of the U.S. and Israel fighting together.

[AIG]

Yes, I celebrate America's bankrupting itself by continual war.

[elbucko]

"..so where's the money gonna come from?

OK, Chinkie-poo, games over. Why don't you go play with your game boy until mamma turns down your bed.

No Chicom uses "gonna" in a sentence.

Buena Noche, Buck.

[Texasforever]

China's growing economic importance is not something that can be fought militarily but just has to be lived with.

Yes but when china uses that economic importance to do what communists do naturally, don't rule out the military option.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Imagine the one-two punch affect of the U.S. and Israel fighting together."

Saddam's gotta be having some real sleepless nights ;)