Widow's children help her cope

The Beacon Journal (Akron, Ohio) ^ | Aug. 14, 2002 | Karalee Miller

[southern rock]

I am asking if you think being stopped for speeding by the police constitute a valid, lawful, or Constitutional reason to commit murder.

No, Not unless your own life or safety is threatened.

[Liberty Teeth]

Thats too bad - I was hoping you were sterile (for the good of society).

[Cultural Jihad]

Same question to you, in #73. And please don't smear the Founders with this man's wacko ideology. You are not being ruled by a foreign occupation army and Henry David Thoreau did not write a pamplet entitled "Civil Insurrection."

[Catspaw]

Violence can solve quite a few problems. It is always a solution that can be applied to a tyrannical government as well. The difference between patriot and what you call a nut job is often only a matter of degree.

You mean that Matthews wouldn't have shot Taylor had been been stopped for going 11 miles over the limit? Or 10? How about 9? I'm just trying to find the degree with which one does not shoot a police officer and the degree with which one can be allowed to shoot a police officer.

[Centurion2000]

The difference between patriot and what you call a nut job is often only a matter of degree.

That is a ridiculous statement.

Why is that ? This guy shot the cop because the cop pulled him over and he thought it was wrong (so we're told at this point), the cop attempts to arrest him and a gun battle results where the cop dies.

Was the guy right ? Hell no, getting a speeding ticket is just an annoyance or a non-equitable tax for something which is essentially frivolous.

But say the cop decides to take your guns for some "law-breaking" : are you going to surrender them ?

Paranoid nut job and armed patriot can be a close thing in the eyes of conservatives. In the eyes of liberals they are already one and the same.

[Cultural Jihad]

Unfortunately we cannot view your rap sheet to see what has so colored your perception of reality.

[wienerdog.com]

Of course not, you mountebank. That does not mean I am weeping for anyone in particular right now.

[VA Advogado]

Oh, there are many many more where I came from. And thank God for normal society. Kick fake liberty right in the teeth.

[VA Advogado]

,I know for fact many will lie and deceive just to cover their own incompentant ass cuz they don't know the law

Yeah, thats the problem in this society. The cops don't know the law and the constitution. What turnip truck did you drive in on?

[ResistorSister]

Simple courtesy and politeness go a long way in police stops

Crying works too.

Our daughter was stopped for speeding.

She started crying, and crying, and crying.

The officer told her to take it easy, calm down...then he let her go without a ticket.

Of course, she displayed simple courtesy and politeness too.

[PuNcH]

Same question to you, in #73. And please don't smear the Founders with this man's wacko ideology. You are not being ruled by a foreign occupation army and Henry David Thoreau did not write a pamplet entitled "Civil Insurrection."

So then you're saying this guy wasnt a constitutionalist.

Do you beat yourself regularly everytime a republican commits a crime?

[Liberty Teeth]

Breeding like incestual rats I'm sure...

[Centurion2000]

I'm just trying to find the degree with which one does not shoot a police officer and the degree with which one can be allowed to shoot a police officer.

That's a personal question and for some it would be different. Being driven off your land is enough for some to fight. Having someone try to disarm them is enough to fight for some. For some (my personal opinion, the lunatics) they will fight over a 50.00 speeding ticket and an issue.

I'm not defending the guy but there are some out here that think we should never be able to take up arms against the government. Every citizen has that right last of all. But don't be suprised if some think your a nut job for fighting at all.

[alnick]

You've got some seriously screwed up ideas. Please just don't respond to me anymore and I'll steer clear of you.

[Centurion2000]

The difference between patriot and what you call a nut job is often only a matter of degree.

That is a ridiculous statement.

Why is that ? This guy shot the cop because the cop pulled him over and he thought it was wrong (so we're told at this point), the cop attempts to arrest him and a gun battle results where the cop dies.

Was the guy right ? Hell no, getting a speeding ticket is just an annoyance or a non-equitable tax for something which is essentially frivolous.

But say the cop decides to take your guns for some "law-breaking" : are you going to surrender them ?

Paranoid nut job and armed patriot can be a close thing in the eyes of conservatives. In the eyes of liberals they are already one and the same.

[Centurion2000]

sorry about the double post folks

[VA Advogado]

Eno, what is your take on this? Should we just post the cops name and address and family member's address on the internet and harass them?

[eastforker]

MY rap sheet,wll I do have a short one,one of them started over a dog bite that escalated to me being charged with evading detention(whole lota bull shitt and lieing on behalf of the LEO,they were even going to do a no knock raid over this,a dog bite that didn't even happen.Cost me over three grand to fight it and house the dog at the vet.But,when I was broke into and had my whole household goods stolen,all they would do was give me a police report over the phone.CJ,you sound to me as someone that has led a very sheltered life,never experiancing what realy goes on,just a textbook version.