Massillon officer, suspect killed in chase, shootout

The Canton Repository (OHIO) ^ | Saturday, August 10, 2002 | LORI MONSEWICZ and ROBERT WANG Repository staff writers

[dirtboy]

The police will not release specific information about the cause of the officers death or the location of the wound. Thus it is certainly within the realm of possibility that he was killed by friendly fire.

Wrong, wrong and wrong. From the link in post #125:

Taylor died of a single gunshot from behind, and the bullet matched Matthews' imported gun, said Rick Walters, an investigator with the Stark County coroner's office. The bullet entered from behind and traveled to his chest.

[dirtboy]

From the coroner, it wasn't friendly fire. From the link in post #215:

Taylor died of a single gunshot from behind, and the bullet matched Matthews' imported gun, said Rick Walters, an investigator with the Stark County coroner's office. The bullet entered from behind and traveled to his chest.

[IronJack]

I think people need to understand that, as in any eclectic population, FR has some extremists. We have all felt the frustration of overbearing government, the seeming arrogance of our so-called public servants, and felt the sting of righteous anger when our liberties were threatened. Some of us handle those setbacks well; some don't.

That this unfortunate FReeper chose to express his frustrations through what is ultimately a suicidal (and homicidal) act does NOT reflect on Free Republic. I'm sure his frustrations were in place long before he encountered this web site, and his decision to forfeit his life was little influenced by his registration here.

Nevertheless, two people are dead in a nightmarish collision between ideals and reality, a conflict that never should have taken place.

[dirtboy]

A number one rule in politics is that you never, ever give your opponent something he can use against you.

Or, as Clarence Thomas once said, don't give them the hammer to hit you with...

[Friedrich Hayek]

Taylor died of a single gunshot from behind...

Shooting people in the back.. what a classy Constitutionalist.

[eastforker]

My consern with this topic is not how this tragedy ended,but how it started and escalated.Unless we know all there is about the initial stop,all we know are the end results.

[RGSpincich]

Officer shot in the back, unbelievable.

The officer was probably going into a full retreat rather than go in with his weapon blazing. Next step would be to talk the guy out of his mindset and his weapon. Nobody gets hurt.

The backshooter got what he deserved.

[Cultural Jihad]

Shooting people in the back.. what a classy Constitutionalist.

"It was self-defense against self-governance. The JBT pulled me over, and infringed on my inalienable right to speed unmolested."

[Petronski]

Traffic laws are adjudicated in administrative courts which are not subject to constitutional review.

You're off your gob.

[eastforker]

I can't help it, YOU HAVE COPLETLY LOST IT!!!!!

[Cultural Jihad]

My consern with this topic is not how this tragedy ended,but how it started and escalated.

Baloney. Read the posts made by this individual.

[dirtboy]

My consern with this topic is not how this tragedy ended,but how it started and escalated.Unless we know all there is about the initial stop,all we know are the end results.

Uh, the coroner already said that Taylor died of a gunshot would to the back from Matthew's gun. I think there are sufficient facts here to place the blame on Matthews for the time being, unless something proves otherwise from police videos or eyewitness accounts. So far, the events described are entirely consistent with the rant from Matthews that someone posted here. Given that, I am strongly inclined to believe the official account. I am sure someone will make this into a conspiracy, but they must provide something other than suppositions to get any sane person to buy into such...

[sourcery]

Generally, the way a person puts theory into practice is more important than whatever theories the person advocates/believes. Or as this is more commonly stated: actions speak louder than words.

And anyone is liable to make an uncharacteristic misjudgment, especially when under pressure--sometines with tragic consequences.

[dirtboy]

I can't help it, YOU HAVE COPLETLY LOST IT!!!!!

Uh, normally CJ and I are at loggerheads, but he is correct on this topic. The first rule of holes is that, once you find yourself in one, stop digging...

[eastforker]

One more time,and I am not gonna say it happened here,just that we don't know.If a buddy of mine gets killed in an industrial accident at work,and I am the only witness,my account of the matter will reflect my buddy as an innocent bystander during a dangerous job,not that he was so stupid to put himself in a dangerous position that got him killed.The one telling the story is gonna reflect dearly on the beloved co-worker,usualy at all cost "if possible."

[Cultural Jihad]

Should I post 'em again?

It's your call, oph, but it won't appease those who choose to see Reality distorted through the glasses of their ideology.