Pornographer says he hacked al Qaeda

CNN.com ^ | 8-9-2002 | Mike Boettcher

[irishlass]

Amazing! This guys "office" is two blocks from mine! It is in a small storefront with all of the windows blacked out. I have always felt sorry for his kid because the parents are proud of what they do, and they speak of it openly in our small (Friday only) newspapers. BTW, his wife is one of the gals on his site. I see her at the bank and am not at all sure I would pay for access!

[JameRetief]

Well, now you've told us your definition. It doesn't say that in my Webster dictionary, nor in the laws in my locality.

I would love to see you go before a judge and tell him/her that accepting money to provide sexual arousal for another isn't prostitution.

[Khepera]

My thoughts exactly.

[Stone Mountain]

There are plenty of men that will pay a prostitute to simply be naked while they do their thing, and that is still considered prostitution.

Not by law enforcement. In fact, a common way that johns distinguish between genuine streetwalkers and undercover cops is to ask them if they will accept money to pose nude. Real streetwalkers will jump at this opportunity to make some easy money, while undercover cops won't since posing nude isn't a crime.

[jlogajan]

I would love to see you go before a judge and tell him/her that accepting money to provide sexual arousal for another isn't prostitution.

Geez, what hick town do you live in? Ever hear of topless clubs?

[Stone Mountain]

I would love to see you go before a judge and tell him/her that accepting money to provide sexual arousal for another isn't prostitution.

You would go to a judge and tell him that all strippers are performing prostitution? Or tell him that writers and publishers of adult books and magazines are prostitutes? This is nowhere near the definition of prostitution, legally or otherwise.

[JameRetief]

Perhaps legally it isn't technically prostitution, but hiring someone to pose nude while you "relieve" yourself isn't legal. The prostitute would likely be prosecuted for performing an unlicensed sex show or other similar laws depending on where you live. All of these laws regulating sexual performance for the end result of climax in exchange for money fall within the same framework, whether you want to technically call it prostitution or not.

It's similar to Clinton saying he didn't have sex with "that woman, Ms Lewinsky". Using a pure technical definition, he didn't have sex (so far as the evidence shows), but he was engaging in sexual conduct that brought him "relief".

Topless clubs, on the other hand (no pun intended), are legal because no one is "relieving" themselves, and the women aren't hired for the purpose of exciting men to that point. If the men do become too excited to the point they can't control themselves, they are prosecuted for indecent exposure or other similar statutes.

[Stone Mountain]

All of these laws regulating sexual performance for the end result of climax in exchange for money fall within the same framework, whether you want to technically call it prostitution or not.

And as far as you are concerned, posting naked pictures of a woman on the internet qualifies as well?

[JameRetief]

And as far as you are concerned, posting naked pictures of a woman on the internet qualifies as well?

In the sense that it is intended for the sexual release of someone else who is paying for it? Yes (assuming she is being compensated for it). If she isn't doing it for money, but another is making money from it, it is simply exploitation.

Now whether there are laws against the pictures, that is a different case entirely.

[Stone Mountain]

So the same goes for adult book and magazine publishers?

[WellsFargo94]

My bet is the feds ratted him out.

No. Bill just wanted his porn site back!

[jedwardtremlett]

"'What is this "thought to be" crap?'"

"I think CNN is pandering to its Arab customers and investors."

Maybe. On the other hand, maybe they're waiting for a gun with more smoke to show up...?

Personally, I think the 'Osama Unplugged' video was about as much of a confession as we're going to get, and nothing that Al-Queda's said since then has led me to believe they're denying it. This is sort of an odd moment for anyone to pull out the 'alleged' card.

J

[JameRetief]

So the same goes for adult book and magazine publishers?

Yes, as long as the images are intended as pornography (those images with an intent for sexual pleasure). The word pornography is itself derived from the Greek porne (prostitute) and graphe (drawings or writings).