Conservatives' Billions Fuel Leftist Establishment

NewsMax.com ^ | Thursday, Aug. 8, 2002 | Wes Vernon

[NormsRevenge]

No Rockefellers? :-| Waahh Happ'n ?

[bonesmccoy]

This guy has it nailed on the head. The only thing he left out were the major medical non-profits, like AMA, AAP, AAFP, etc.

[Humidston]

Amazing. We have soooo much work to do - in every aspect of our culture!

[BJClinton]

Bump for future reading.

[THX 1138]

Just proves what most of us have always felt: liberals are just leeches on society.

[nopardons]

And that FREEPERS should immediately stop blaming the families ( who set up and do NOT now run ! ), for what these foundations do.

[College Repub]

#1 on the list is currently being run by Bill and Melinda and they know very well what it's doing. But hey, it's his money he can do what he wants with it. The author has a point with almost all of the others.

[ThePythonicCow]

Foundations are inherently leftist, in my view. As are the leading Universities and dominant media.

Once you shift the perspective from "us, working together for us", to "us, working to help them", then that opens the door for the Socialist Disease. Socialism is a social disease. It is not a disease of the individual, but a sick play, enacted by mostly decent people, with several essential roles. One of these roles is "helping others" (whether they need it or not or in that manner). The Boss Tyrant role is usually played by a dangerous psychopath (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hillary, ...) but the other roles can be filled by the person next door.

Foundations are one of the institutions easily corrupted by this disease.

If I were rich, I think I'd look for someway to spread the money around in smaller piles, before I passed on, to minimize this affect.

[nopardons]

Yes, Gates earned his money and he has the right to do with it as he sees fit. What I was referring to, was the fact that so many FREEPERS assume that the descendants of those who originally set up these trusts and/ or foundations, have an active role in what they do now ; which I have often said ( as has this author, in this article ! ) is just NOT true.

I think that the article hits the nail on the head, in everything that it says; BTW. I was just adding that it is absurd to blame ALL living Rockefellers or Pews, etc. for things which they now have NO control over. :-)

[Kryptonite]

This screams out "Be Careful With Donations to Charitable Foundations."

Oh, and money is surely well-spent at FR.

[elbucko]

absurd to blame ALL living Rockefellers

Point well taken, but the RF was one of the first to hang a left decades ago and provided socialist networking for personal to infect other foundations.

BTW, Nelson is dead, but were he living he should be drawn and quartered for the traitorous acts against Barry Goldwater in '64 (IMHO).

[toenail]

"NewsMax.com reminded Freeman that the one and only known congressional investigation of the huge amounts of money and awesome power of the tax-exempt foundations took place back in the 1950s, the last time the Republicans controlled the House before going into a 40-year minority status that finally ended when they won the 1994 elections."

I was going to scan this in today (the section on foundation control of education). Wish I would have. I'll do it tomorrow. 99% of Americans have absolutely no idea that our national schooling is the creation and ongoing project of a handful of private corporate foundations (whose plans for your children don't include you or what you want).

[nopardons]

Nelson is dead. David is still alive. The younger generations , of Rockefellers have had and do NOT have anything, whatsoever, to do with how that foundation has been / is being administered. Neither, for that matter, did Nelson have anything to do with it going left. You may dislike him for his " acts " ( which were in no way " traitorous ... look up the meaning of that word, before you attempt to use it again ! )against Goldwater ; however, don't state, as fact , something which did NOT happen.

BTW, the current lot of Pews, also do NOT have any say in how that foundation is administered either. Neither, according to this article, does any of the other scions , of old and wealthy families, in deciding what a namesake foundation does. Yet, and this IS my only point, and why I first posted what I did, many, many, MANY FREEPERS, unfortunately lambast those they do not know, in regard to doing something, which they have NOT done (nor can they ! ), because they do NOT know what they're talking about.

I do hope that enough people read this thread, and finally wake up to the truth !

[leilani]

Yes. The Rockefeller slackers, er I mean, heirs were not mentioned. But they have been funding massively antiamerican, anticapitalist causes for years. Just like the junior generation of Fords. All those pampered trust-fund pigs evidently believe that capitalism is OK to finance their Aspen/Hamptons lifestyle, but heaven forfend any brown-skinned-third-world folks should ever derive the benefits of the plain old-fashioned hard work that their grandaddies believed in...yeah, Right.

[toenail]

David Rockefeller's leftist actions are easy enough to prove without mentioning the foundation at all.

[nopardons]

Which current Rockefeller scions do you PERSONALLY know ? Please name names, and how you come to know them, what thedy are now doing, and how many conversations you've had with them, upon which you have based your slanderous statements on.

Truth be told, you don't know any Rockefellers ; do you ? You're just doing exactly what I said some FREEPERS do here ... talking about that which you don't know a bloody thing about.

[nopardons]

This article and I are talking ONLY about the foundations. One topic at a time. :-)

[elbucko]

You must have something to do with the Rockefellers and the Foundation to be such a defender and apologist for them.

[toenail]

"This article and I are talking ONLY about the foundations. One topic at a time. :-)"

I wasn't sure how to phrase the reply and deleted most of it. Ever read the Reece Commission Report? I'll post the portion on education tomorrow if the OCR/scan doesn't require too much proofreading.

[elbucko]

Yet, and this IS my only point, and why I first posted what I did, many, many, MANY FREEPERS, unfortunately lambast those they do not know, in regard to doing something, which they have NOT done (nor can they ! ), because they do NOT know what they're talking about.

So, ah, what's your point, if you have one!