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Nevadans Weigh Proposal to Make Marijuana Legal
NYTimes ^ | 8/2/02 | MICHAEL JANOFSKY

Posted on 08/02/2002 7:49:13 AM PDT by RJCogburn

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what it would do is place enormous pressure on Congress to take a rational look at the nation's drug laws

That would be a good step forward.

1 posted on 08/02/2002 7:49:13 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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Has anybody challenged the constitutionality of federal
marijuana laws in court? Arguably a law prohibiting
any product is not concerned with interstate commerce,
even under the cockamamie theories the SC has accepted,
since there is no legal commerce interstate, but if the
product were made in state one could still imagine commerce
intrastate.
2 posted on 08/02/2002 7:53:27 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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So far, the most outspoken critics have been two recent visitors from Washington — Asa Hutchinson, chief of the Drug Enforcement Administration, and John Walters, head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

Gee, whiz.

3 posted on 08/02/2002 7:59:28 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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The Chicoms would love it. To paraphrase the words of one of the 19th Century Imperial commissioner sent to observe the effects of British Opium on the Chinese population - "in one generation China will have neither soldiers or farmers". Legalize marijuana and we will have a population that can neither fight or work.
4 posted on 08/02/2002 8:01:59 AM PDT by Fee
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"It is highly unlikely the federal government would allow a state to create a legal market for the sale of drugs in which the state licenses the sale or sets up stores to sell it," he said

Love the use of that word, "allow", here ... yep, the Constitution has been turned on its ear, and now the feds decide what the states and the people are allowed to do, instead of vice versa. Guess what? The 10th Amendment will be reclaimed, not by SCOTUS, but by the states taking back the powers usurped by the feds.

5 posted on 08/02/2002 8:02:30 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Linda Liberty
I believe the SC has accepted the arguement that the interstate commerce clause allows the feds to outlaw in state commerce, just another insane twisting of intent.

Stossel made them look like the fools they are the other nite, haven't seen any comment on the program on the rest of the media
6 posted on 08/02/2002 8:09:38 AM PDT by steve50
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I believe the SC has accepted the arguement that the interstate commerce clause allows the feds to outlaw in state commerce, just another insane twisting of intent.

Actually it's worse than that. They can outlaw potential commerce, and can even penalize you for doing something that might result in you not engaging in commerce. See Wickard v. Filburn for an example.

7 posted on 08/02/2002 8:16:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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Just curious what the drug policy is of the largest employers in Nevada - the casinos? Our experience with marijuana users is poor work performance. Perhaps legalization will make them more productive citizens! Ha!
8 posted on 08/02/2002 8:18:32 AM PDT by janee
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Legalize marijuana and we will have a population that can neither fight or work.

It is already readily available.

9 posted on 08/02/2002 8:47:49 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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Legalize marijuana and we will have a population that can neither fight or work.

It should be, "Outlaw alcohol, so we can once again have a population that can fight and work."
10 posted on 08/02/2002 8:49:56 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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Our experience with marijuana users is poor work performance

There are some good studies that demonstrate no difference in injury rates between those who test positive and negative for marijuana. That does not mean the same as quality of work performance, of course.

11 posted on 08/02/2002 8:51:06 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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I say keep it illegal. It's already so easy to get, and the quality's so good, that I think the government would only screw things up. In high school, getting weed was much easier then getting beer. As it should be. Papers written while stoned always got higher marks those written while drunk.
12 posted on 08/02/2002 8:57:25 AM PDT by SkunkPunk
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It's even worse than that: If you read the commerce clause, it allows the FedGov to act to prevent states from interfering in interstate commerce. It has plainly been stretched to absurd lengths.

At least Nevada will bring the debate out into the open, in a place where pot can be compared with prostitution and gambling as a subject for federal regulation.

13 posted on 08/02/2002 9:01:23 AM PDT by eno_
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Prediction:

If this passes, Nevada will become the fastest growing state in the country within the first year.
14 posted on 08/02/2002 9:04:46 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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Prediction:

Doritos opens new warehouse in Vegas.
15 posted on 08/02/2002 9:10:19 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: tacticalogic
Actually it's worse than that. They can outlaw potential commerce, and can even penalize you for doing something that might result in you not engaging in commerce. See Wickard v. Filburn for an example.

I had Wickard in mind in my original post (#2). The logic in Wickard was that growing wheat on your field and feeding it to your chicken affected interstate prices, because if you didn't grow the wheat you might have bought some, thus affecting prices. (Pretty ridiculous, but that's what they said.) But even that broad an interpretation could be argued not to apply to an outright prohibition: if nevadan's grow and sell within the state, it doesn't affect any prices in any legal interstate transaction, or any legal transactions in any other state for that matter. I can imagine that the current court, which is trying to be vaguely federalist, could conceivably buy that argument (although i wouldn't hold my breath.)

16 posted on 08/02/2002 9:29:02 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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Legalize marijuana and we will have a population that can neither fight or work.

That is a very silly assertion. I smoked my fair share when I was a teen, then I got over it and served for 6 years. You really need some more accurate data on the effects of marijuana.

17 posted on 08/02/2002 10:16:06 AM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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I think the federal government will approach it more along the lines of equating it with posession of a sawed off shotgun. They claim the authority to make it illegal to have one under the Commerce Clause, because you might sell it to someone in another state, even if you aren't breaking any state laws by having it.
18 posted on 08/02/2002 10:20:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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pressure on Congress to take a rational look

Congress doens't take a rational look at anything anymore, but I agree it would be a good idea even if they take an inrrational look at our freedom destroying drug laws.

19 posted on 08/02/2002 10:21:53 AM PDT by Jesse
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Follow the money. With the competition from Indian gaming, Nevada needs a new source of revenue.

What about those random drug tests at major employers? Will evidence of a recent trip to Las Vegas serve as an excuse?

20 posted on 08/02/2002 10:32:13 AM PDT by AZLiberty
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