Fires burning on more than 260,000 acres across Oregon

Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 07/28/2002 | AP

[Grampa Dave]

I guess that the size of the acreage burning in Oregon can no longer be discounted or ignored by the Oregonian/Oregon Live Green Beanies.

[Grampa Dave]

For your info.

If you have any more up to date data, please post it.

[Grampa Dave]

Fyi and please use your ping lists to spread the word. Thank you.

[Grampa Dave]

The latest fire map that I can find:

Salvation and Cake Crumb please post what you have re the latest data on these fires. Thank you!

[Carry_Okie]

I guess one would call it a "palling."

Isn't it amusing that when byproducts of combustion have an industrial source the mediots call it "air pollution," but when it comes from fire they call it "smoke." Makes one wonder why if the ban prescribed fire on the grounds of "clean air" is intended to produce sufficient fuels to burn out the homeowners.

This is not a merely whimsical observation. Backyard burning and prescribed fire are proposed to be banned upon precisely such grounds in Sierra Nevada counties that are already in attainment for air quality.

[Carry_Okie]

Makes one wonder why if the ban prescribed fire on the grounds of "clean air" is intended to produce sufficient fuels to burn out the homeowners.

Yuck.

Should have been:

Makes one wonder if proposed bans on prescribed fire (on the grounds of "clean air") are intended to produce sufficient fuels to burn out the homeowners.

Mea crappola.

[Grampa Dave]

Latest National Fire maps:

New fires in Kali land too.

[RWG]

Will be in Lebanon and Redmond next week, any inofrmation about those areas?

[Grampa Dave]

Latest Oregon NOAA image:

[Grampa Dave]

Latest Southern Kali Noah Fire Map image:

[Mr. Jeeves]

Looking at the causes, I'm wondering if the Sierra Club will be putting forth anti-lightning legislation in the near future?

[Grampa Dave]

You posted: "Makes one wonder why if the ban prescribed fire on the grounds of "clean air" is intended to produce sufficient fuels to burn out the homeowners.

This is not a merely whimsical observation. Backyard burning and prescribed fire are proposed to be banned upon precisely such grounds in Sierra Nevada counties that are already in attainment for air quality.

This terrible observation has been the back of my mind since the Los Alamos fires two + years ago.

Recently a freeper, (I can't remember whom), posted about the fires in Colorado and Arizona that the bans of backyard, prescribed burns, and of course your favorites the no road, no harvest/thinning of trees including dead trees, and no brush removal was pre planned by the elite enviral fascists.

So, when these fires started and raged out of control with no bull dozer containment, just limited man power and air drops, that home owners around these areas often got/get burned out. Just another form of rural cleansing by the elite Eco Terrorists who don't want humans outside of the Goron voting inner cities.

The negative impact on property value of the surviving homes and with those who lost homes, will last for years as a slow continual rural cleansing after the fires. When, the rains come this fall/winter/spring, those areas on hill sides will become very muddy and miserable to live in. Some homes could slide down in mud slides.

Eventually, most insurance companies may not write normal homeowners policies for those who live around a forest or in so called wild lands. Any wild fire insurance will be as expensive or more expensive than our earthquake insurance in Kali. That will be another rural cleansing force long after these fires are just bad memories.

[Young Werther]

I believe that it would be a prudent action if each Oregonian, Washingtonian, Arizonian, Californian, New Mexican, etc etc (you get my drift) would contact Senate Leader Duh-asshole. After all he is the expert when it comes to the ICC, Interstate Conflagation Committee. I'm sure he can explain to these crybabies why only South Dakota should be shielded from the envirowackos. The rest of the "madding crowd" must just grin and bear it as their homes and livliwoods go up in smoke!

SARCASM ALERT!!!!

[snopercod]

When Smoky Bear said "Only YOU can prevent forest fires", I guess he must have been addressing God. All of them seemed to have been started by lightning.

Or maybe he was addressing the Sierra Clubbers et.al., who are responsible for turning small managable fires into big uncontrollable ones.

[snopercod]

And when it comes from industry or automobiles, it's called smog, but when it comes from trees (like here in the Smoky Mountains), it's called "haze".

[Grampa Dave]

This is in the Sisters Area:

CACHE MOUNTAIN:

Started: 7/24/02, 15 miles northwest of Sisters, Oregon

Size: 1200 acres.

Containment: 0 percent.

Evacuations: Camp Tamarack, mandatory evacuation. 7/25/02.

Damage: Fire has spread to Weyerhaeuser land. 7/25/02.

On scene: 62 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.

Also, there is a fire near Maupin.

You need to check with the locals where you are going, before and during your visit.

[Reeses]

Backyard burning and prescribed fire are proposed to be banned

But the greens say Sequoia forests needs to be toasted on occasion, it opens up the seed pods you see. There’s just no other way to get the seeds that will save us. We’ll just have to accept the huge amounts of CO2 production since the goddess Gaia produces it.

Why do sane men tolerate these fundamentalist fruits and nuts?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

White River is a great place. Did alot of corss country skiing there, beautiful country. Sad to see it decimated.

[Grampa Dave]

Since you brought up Smokey the Bear, you might be interested in this thread, (It's not all Smokey Bear's Fault)

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Live webcam, Medford, OR. I think along the highway. Looks like at this time it is pretty smokey.