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Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)
Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:59 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: cyncooper
I think that VRWC_minion is referring to the outright speculation that Danielle ever had access to the MH and played in it at some point in time.

Actually, assuming David Westerfield entered the van Dam's household is just as much outright speculation since there was zero evidence of his presence there. The hair, fiber, and DNA evidence only proves Danielle was in the MH, not when she was in it. That leads to two theories. The first is that a drunken 50-year-old man with no past record of sexual predatory behavior snuck into a house he'd never entered before, abducted Danielle, and then spirited her away to the motor home (presumably while still alive). The second is that Danielle had the opportunity to explore the motor home while walking to the park, to a friend's house, etc. and left trace evidence during her "adventure."

Having been a kid that was prone to exploring places I shouldn't, the second sounds more reasonable at first blush, but that's just my opinion.

301 posted on 07/25/2002 11:58:14 AM PDT by Stiv
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To: Spunky
NO.....real aaudio keeps REBUFFERING.or resetting itslef..whatever it means.
302 posted on 07/25/2002 11:58:49 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: connectthedots
"Dusek is digging his own grave with this witness."


Oh, I DO AGREE!!!! Wheeeeee~~~~~~~~~~~~~

303 posted on 07/25/2002 11:59:19 AM PDT by the Deejay
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it's not an exact science.you want ot use as many sources as possible.. LOST FEED to make an estimate LUNCH BREAK. whew..for one hour. 12-1
304 posted on 07/25/2002 12:00:16 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Stiv
The second is that Danielle had the opportunity to explore the motor home while walking to the park, to a friend's house, etc. and left trace evidence during her "adventure."

But the only evidence entered at trial shows this option is not possible. Danielle was not allowed to walk across the street and such alone and there is not evidence she had any opportunity to explore the MH. The forensic evidence found in the MH is what establishes DW getting her that weekend, coupled with him being gone on a very erratic trip that resulted in no normal camping activity. JMO

305 posted on 07/25/2002 12:05:17 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: It's me
faulkner and the 2nd bug guy both discussed mummification a little right, yet that is not their specialty right?? I missed the 2nd bug guy's description of the mummification... I was just saying that I dont' see much of a difference.
306 posted on 07/25/2002 12:05:48 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Stiv
Couldn't agree more, Stiv.

You also forgot to mention how DW would have gotten Danielle into the motorhome, since it wasn't in his driveway that night...he had to go get it. Did he transport her in his SUV? There's no evidence of her being in there. Did he keep her in his house? Alone? While he went to go get the RV? Doubtful.
307 posted on 07/25/2002 12:07:05 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: Eva
G-watches? I've never heard of them either.. Thans eva!
308 posted on 07/25/2002 12:07:20 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
gotta go for an hr...
309 posted on 07/25/2002 12:07:48 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I have a problem with the ant testimony because there isn't any proof of them at this site nor is there an attempt to estimate their effect.

For example, the ants only ate the larva before mid February and not after that ?

310 posted on 07/25/2002 12:09:05 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: cyncooper
No, it doesn't cyn. All it establishes is that Danielle was in the MH at SOME POINT. They can't prove when, or for what reason...only that she was there.
311 posted on 07/25/2002 12:09:20 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
faulkner and the 2nd bug guy both discussed mummification a little right, yet that is not their specialty right?? I missed the 2nd bug guy's description of the mummification... I was just saying that I dont' see much of a difference.

Yes, the bug guys established bug activity on the condition of the body. It is helpful, therefore, to have this anthopologist who is an expert in the decay and mummification of bodies to testify. He has studied fly and insect activity and if Goff is able to testify, will be a very good foundation for that testimony.

312 posted on 07/25/2002 12:10:33 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: VRWC_minion
good point minion - I would think that the other two bug guys would have considered ant evedence too - that's bug stuff.
313 posted on 07/25/2002 12:11:19 PM PDT by mommya
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To: cyncooper
If we are free to speculate without evidence isn't it possible that Westerfield entered the girls bedroom as a voyuer (as well as others) numerous times before undetected?
314 posted on 07/25/2002 12:12:03 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
and not leave a single trace of evidence behind?
315 posted on 07/25/2002 12:13:31 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: mommya
good point minion

Do I only have good points when I question the prosecutor ?

316 posted on 07/25/2002 12:13:56 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
and not leave a single trace of evidence behind?

Sure why not ? I was told the visitors that night didn't leave any evidence ?

317 posted on 07/25/2002 12:14:53 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
what visitors and which night are you referring to?
318 posted on 07/25/2002 12:16:11 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: VRWC_minion
If we are free to speculate without evidence isn't it possible that Westerfield entered the girls bedroom as a voyuer (as well as others) numerous times before undetected?

Hmmmmmmmm. We do KNOW that the vanDams had people in the house Friday night, yet the police did not find their fingerprints......It is possible for a person to be in a place and not leave behind evidence (as you know).

319 posted on 07/25/2002 12:16:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
what visitors and which night are you referring to?

The night Danielle was abducted there were visitors weren't there ?

320 posted on 07/25/2002 12:17:24 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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