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Volunteer Snoops Coming to an ISP Near You?
The Register (US Version) ^ | 07/22/2002 at 10:31 EST | Thomas C Greene in Washington

Posted on 07/22/2002 11:09:21 AM PDT by AdA$tra

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To: wbill
Can bwe dance wit yo dates?

Leaving, what a good idea!
21 posted on 07/22/2002 12:27:30 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: AdA$tra
Also, sorry that we highjacked your thread with a bunch of Animal House quotes. I suppose that a parallel could be drawn between the utter insanity of government policy and perhaps the best college-set comedy ever made.....but that would raise the intellectual level of the thread to a higher standard.

Thus, I have only this to say: "Toga Party"

22 posted on 07/22/2002 12:29:27 PM PDT by wbill
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To: lelio
I'm sure the number of home invasions will increase.

Hasn't anyone told you: ATF = Friend.
23 posted on 07/22/2002 12:29:56 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: wbill
'Salright. I joined right in. Although I didn't realize FR was made up entirely of the toga party generation.
24 posted on 07/22/2002 12:32:22 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: AdA$tra
Actually, I'm more from the 'PCU' generation. I always thought that movie was a bland imitator of Animal House, though. There's only one original.

Belushi could say more with one single raised eyebrow - think about him on the ladder outside the soroity window - than most of today's comedians can say in an entire monologue. Too bad he was a druggie.

That having been said, my advice to you is to start drinking heavily. You better listen to me, I'm pre-med.

25 posted on 07/22/2002 12:38:48 PM PDT by wbill
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To: dead
dead, I forget your zip code. Help me out, wouldja?
26 posted on 07/22/2002 12:39:04 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Salgak
Heard of it? I do it every day.

I didn't buy PGP commercially - just using the freeware. I haven't worked with GNU privacy guard but will check it out. PGP's done anyway though - although I am sure the idea will carry on.

Anything can be cracked though - that has been proven throughout history.
27 posted on 07/22/2002 12:44:57 PM PDT by efaust93
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To: Fred Mertz
My list is getting very big.

What till the government finds out the things you've been writing.

You'll singlehandedly get me promoted from snitch to rat.

28 posted on 07/22/2002 12:45:06 PM PDT by dead
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To: dead
Hmmm. Snitches around here have a way of turning up dead. So that makes you...just like now. I mean before. Or already. ....oh never mind. /grin/
29 posted on 07/22/2002 12:48:57 PM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

What is that? A Twisted Sister pin, ON YOUR UNIFORM!?!? What kind of a man are you? You are worthless and weak! You DO nothing, you ARE nothing, you sit in here all day and play that sick, repulsive, electric TWANG-er ... I CARRIED AN M16!!! And you, you carry that, that, that ... guiTARRR! Who are you?!?! Where do you come from?!?! Are you listening to me??!?! What do you wanna do with your life?!

30 posted on 07/22/2002 12:50:51 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: wbill
Also, sorry that we highjacked your thread

NEVER.....EVER apologize for hijacking a thread......but if you do hijack a thread , just make sure you do it with panache.

31 posted on 07/22/2002 12:52:08 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: wbill
Government to us in five years: "Hey, you f*cked up! You trusted us!"
32 posted on 07/22/2002 12:54:08 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Timesink
chuckle! Dee Snider bump.

Would I be dating myself if I said that I actually owned that album? There's no telling the taste of teenagers......

33 posted on 07/22/2002 12:54:11 PM PDT by wbill
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To: AdA$tra
'Salright. I joined right in. Although I didn't realize FR was made up entirely of the toga party generation.

To-GA! To-GA! To-GA! To-GA!

Actually, I don't think it's so much that we're all the toga party generation - heck, I was around 8 when the movie came out - as much as a universal realization that there have been few to zero truly classic comedies made since the mid-1980s. Caddyshack, The Blues Brothers, Ghostbusters, etc.

"Cut the horseshit, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear ... Every spring, the toilets ... explode."

34 posted on 07/22/2002 12:56:44 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Richard Kimball
Yeah, we Otter know better. If enough people wise up, the government will Flounder.
35 posted on 07/22/2002 12:57:06 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Timesink
"NOooooo Prisoners!"
36 posted on 07/22/2002 1:00:35 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Timesink
....I was around 8 when the movie came out...

I was a senior in high school. Bad combination.
37 posted on 07/22/2002 1:05:24 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: AdA$tra
All that sounds quite reasonable and the initial budget of $35 million refreshingly modest. But before we applaud, let's recall two things. First, most people in government actually expect some al-Qaeda kiddiot crew to fry the Internet with worms and ping floods one day;

God, what an arrogant smarter-than-thou twit this guy is. I wouldn't mind his arrogance so much, though, if he were at least correct. But he's totally wrong. Why couldn't al-Qaeda, or any other group, plant a ton of worms, viruses and ping flood programs on thousands of unprotected computers all over the world, and then set them all to go off at the same time? Any one of us could do it, on a smaller scale, right now if we wanted to. The programs, the viruses, and detailed instructions are freely available all over the web. We know from experience that the release of a single fast-propagating virus can slow the entire Internet to a crawl. We know as fact that the ping floods that take down entire sites (remember that incident in early 2000 where CNN, Amazon, eBay and E-Trade were all knocked offline at the same time?) are usually caused by the actions of a single person. Get enough geeks together on a project - maybe a few dozen, you wouldn't need hundreds - and they could absolutely wreak enough havoc on the Net to bring it to a near-standstill while destroying data on a lot of people's Windows PCs. If one bad-boy virus can slow the Net down by half, what will happen if three such viruses are released at the same time? And if those viruses were truly destructive, as no other virus-writer has yet dared release? Boom, instant disaster.

and second, we've seen a tremendous interest by the current administration in encouraging citizens to rat each other out for 'suspicious behavior'.

And here is where the author admits his entire article is bunk pulled right out of his ass. This is like saying that because California just passed that hideous auto-emissions bill, the CHP is going to fly to Detroit and arm-twist auto executives into allowing them to plant tracking devices in all new cars. Correlation does not equal causation, especially when nothing has been caused in the first place.

One example of this trend is the Department of Justice (DoJ) Operation TIPS, a pilot program establishing a snitch-network of workers eager to report on citizens. The postal service was originally solicited, but demurred.

And then changed their minds and decided to participate. If you're going to write a pissy rant disguised as a news article, Mr. Greene, at least bother to get your facts straight.

38 posted on 07/22/2002 1:15:44 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: AdA$tra
Better answer to all this than chalk - encrypted p2p nets as for example see www.jxta.org.
39 posted on 07/22/2002 2:58:34 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: flamefront
That is interesting as I am a geek-for-a-living. But if Ma Jones next door is to participate, then we still need chalk. I am going to explore uses for that jxta p2p java app though.
40 posted on 07/22/2002 4:21:13 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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