SAN DIEGO ALERT!! Oak Park Children Kept Inside After Abduction Attempt. (Related to Van Dam Case?)

Union Tribune ^ | July 18, 2002 | Deborah Ensor

[MizSterious]

Shhh! Some people get transmissions the rest of us don't. Usually, it's metal fillings. I understand tinfoil hats help to alleviate the symptoms.

[Politicalmom]

The LE source was in a different county, I believe.

[PoisedWoman]

God rest Samantha's beautiful little soul.

I wonder whether the Oak Park kids got a license plate number?

[Freedom2specul8]

It appeared that you were insinuating damon could be the perp..that's the way it looked. The question was posted above the victim's pic.

[dalereed]

"I wonder if Brenda got references from all those strangers at the bar before she asked them to go home with her???"

Probably only how big, and is it bent?

[Freedom2specul8]

Could be the reason the LE has no helpful info right now.

[Politicalmom]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

[Defiant]

You ought to stop accusing the Van Dams of killing their own daughter, and now, of being involved in another girl's rape/murder. I know that was tongue-in-cheek, but it really is going a little too far.

The Oak Park and Runnion cases may well be related--we've got a brazen guy running around out there. The MO is a little different from the Van Dam case, however--daytime abduction, dumped in the open, abductions from apartment complexes with congregations of kids, not suburban neighborhoods with kids playing in their yards or sleeping in their beds. If they catch this guy, I have no problem with Feldman investigating to see if there's any way he can try to pin Danielle on him. That's his job. But, given the blood, hair and fibers and everything (which we don't need to get into again--I know you disagree), I think the prosecution already has the right guy.

I imagine lots of molestation abductions display superficial similarities. For example, the Klaas case. Abducted at night from the home, dumped in a rural area. But that guy's in prison right now, so we know he didn't do it. The Smart case. Abducted at night from her home...I bet she turns up in a forest in Utah or a bordering state.

These monsters tend to have some characteristics in common--the desire for a short time of gratification using children, which dictates the method of abduction, followed by the recognition of the need for self preservation, which dictates both the need to kill the child, followed by the need to destroy or hide the evidence.

So, while it is always important to investigate any possibility connections, I wouldn't read too much into any similarities across the board.

[Palladin]

You are so sick. What's up with your vendetta against the VanDams? If you are really a DA, you should be disbarred for your libelous allegations on a public bulletin board. I hope the VanDam's sue your dirty britches off.

[bvw]

"I wouldn't read too much into any similarities across the board."

But when it comes to the everyday mundane coincidences that constitute the case against Westerfield, those are just fine?

[Defiant]

everyday mundane coincidences

You are right, I've been too tough on Wester for some simple "coincidences". Why, just the other day, I took a jacket in for cleaning, and damned if a neighbor girl's blood didn't turn up on it. When that girl turned up dead, I was real glad the police understood that it was all just one big coincidence.

[bvw]

If you do have kid neighbors, and they do come over -- say to sell cookies, whatever -- you might actually try that experiment. An experiment to see exactly what DNA spotting occurs. Have you?

[FresnoDA]

Dear Kim...

For months, you have posted numerous comments, articles and references to the Danger of Sexual Predators, especially those who target little children....

Some have asked, (with regard to the Danielle Van Dam Case)...is David Westerfield an atypical example of such a predator.  You have referred to a situational molester in response to such inquiries...

However, the FBI and Southern Cal Law Enforcement are approaching the murder of little Samantha quite differently, at least differently than the SDPD went after David Westerfield....

They are targeting the M.O. of such a perp....

Wouldn't it be tragic kim...if the imprinting and tunnel vision toward Westerfield by SDPD, has prevented the investigation and eventual arrest, of what may be a SERIAL KILLER who is transiting up and down the entire Western United States.....

IE:    Oregon Disappearances

        Salt Lake Disappearance

        Orange County Murder

        San Diego Murder

So Kim...that is why I asked, where is Damon...it was quite rhetorical...

FresnoDA

[FresnoDA]

defiant..

I have accused no one of anything...

I have,

Questioned testimony, alibis, credibility....

Are you by trade, A WHITEWASH APPLIER???

Hmmmm???

[FresnoDA]

The VDA tactic of "you will be sued" is fascinating...

Innuendo is rampant on Free Republic...in fact, it is what gets the creative juices of "thinking" to flow...

Unless said juices are ALL DRIED UP...

Sorry you have no problem with Brenda becoming a spokesperson for "How To Keep Your Kids Out Of Trouble"

That is like hiring a pilot, to train other pilots...who has crashed every plane he has ever flown.....IMO

[Defiant]

I understood that your comment was rhetorical, FDA, but...

If you think that Kim is wrong about Westerfield's guilt, the way to point that out is not by suggesting that the father murdered his daughter, but by attacking the grounds that Kim cites for believing in Westerfield's guilt. If you believe that the father IS the killer of his daughter (and I haven't checked your posts to see if you really believe that or are just being "rhetorical" in your allegations about the Van Dams being involved in the murder), then that's a different story, but you better be prepared to support it if the parents ever decide to make an example of any high profile internet mavens who have defamed them.

[demsux]

I would really doubt that the VD's would file a slander suit. Unless they want even more of their perverted lifestyle splashed across the headlines.

As a matter of fact, I have NO PROBLEM calling them SICK, PERVERTED, DRUNKEN, STONED HEDONISTS THAT ENJOY EXTRAMARITAL SEX.

I would love for them to sue me based on that statement, because the evidence presented so far confirms the statement.

[FresnoDA]

Ok, Thanks...

[demsux]

As a matter of fact, I would also call them BAD PARENTS...anyone who leaves children of this age alone, while at a shopping mall or going to get pizza is a BAD PARENT in my book.

File the suits...

[Freedom2specul8]

"However, the FBI and Southern Cal Law Enforcement are approaching the murder of little Samantha quite differently, at least differently than the SDPD went after David Westerfield...."

Gosh, fresno, it's being handled differently cuz the circumstances are different.