Posted on 07/16/2002 8:34:23 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding."One of my profile quotes pretty much covers it:
Justice Louis D. Brandeis
It is the invariable habit of bureaucracies, at all times and everywhere, to assume...that every citizen is a criminal. Their one apparent purpose, pursued with a relentless and furious diligence, is to convert the assumption into a fact. They hunt endlessly for proofs, and, when proofs are lacking, for mere suspicions. The moment they become aware of a definite citizen, John Doe, seeking what is his right under the law, they begin searching feverishly for an excuse for withholding it from him.
-H. L. Mencken.
-Eric
The Terrorism Information and Prevention System (Operation TIPS),Also known as the Special Human Intelligence Team.
-Eric
Agreed. One almost wishes we had Clinton back (almost!). At least all he did was play with Monica and party.
Carolyn
Where are they indeed. Out to lunch?
With earlier threads on this subject the bushies claim this is an urban legend. Or was it an outright lie, or no it was just trust gw he knows what he is doing....or some such horse poop.
Oh now I remember; it was that we are all reading to much into this, and it is for our own good; yeah thats their story.
Heck, my mail dude can't manage to deliver the mail correctly -- we're always getting someone else's mail, and neighbors are always bringing us mis-delivered mail.
This joker is going to be in a position to report suspicious behavior?
Safer from what? The fact of the matter is, just as on airlines, real security is a joke, and this administration is more interested in power than security. It would be very easy to begin enacting real security by concentrating resources on the people we KNOW are a risk...Middle Eastern males, most here under various visa programs, many expired. Of course, they don't want to do this for fear of offending someone.
Think back to the Bushbots applauding the Bush administration's "support" of the Second Amendment.It supports this civil right as long as the Feds can impose "reasonable restrictions". Hmmmm, who decides that?
Now they want to enlist an army of bureaucrats, some in government, some not, to engage in the equivalent of domestic spying.
We already have a system in place to deal with local suspicious characters. It's called the local and state police and sheriff department. We don't need to be involving the feds in routine local law enforcement matters. And there is nothing to keep anyone from calling in a tip to the FBI now anyway. They should have enough to do already. And if we are really serious about directing resources where they are best used, decriminalize marijuana.
There are far too many reasons to oppose this than support it, and posters are doing a good job of doing so. Dubya and crew are very scary characters.
10 cities with 25 million citizens
1 million snitches is 4% of the citizens in the 10 city pilot program
But seriously, this would have never been tolerated if WJBCX42 was in office. Never.
I knew getting an R in the oval office was a dangerous thing.
Operation TIPS - the Terrorism Information and Prevention System - will be a nationwide program giving millions of American truckers, letter carriers, train conductors, ship captains, utility employees, and others a formal way to report suspicious terrorist activity. Operation TIPS, a project of the U.S. Department of Justice, will begin as a pilot program in 10 cities that will be selected.
Operation TIPS, involving 1 million workers in the pilot stage, will be a national reporting system that allows these workers, whose routines make them well-positioned to recognize unusual events, to report suspicious activity. Every participant in this new program will be given an Operation TIPS information sticker to be affixed to the cab of their vehicle or placed in some other public location so that the toll-free reporting number is readily available.
Everywhere in America, a concerned worker can call a toll-free number and be connected directly to a hotline routing calls to the proper law enforcement agency or other responder organizations when appropriate.
Operation TIPS is coming in August 2002.
I guess that "whacko Australian paper" is more alert than their American counterparts.
Explain to me once more - slowly - how conservative Bush is.
Cordially,
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