Judge Allows Danielle's Dad Back In Court: (Damon was banned for MAD-DOGGING Westerfield!)

North County Times-San Diego ^ | July 13, 2002 | Kimberly Epler

[the Deejay]

"Feldman said the van Dams have been "verbally attacking" potential buyers who are looking at Westerfield's Sabre Springs home, which is two doors down from their house. Westerfield signed the house over to his attorneys."


This is shows such immaturity & childishness. It also shows how I view the vdams. Immature. They do need to grow up and become adults. Why attack potential buyers? What did they do to deserve verbal attacks?

[dread78645]

I don't like DVD anymore than the rest of you do, but not allowing him in the courtroom because he gave mad looks at the man accused of murdering his daughter?

Uhmmm, it was at the request of the sheriff, not the defense.

Sheriff's deputies who escort Westerfield through the halls of the downtown San Diego courthouse from the adjacent Central Jail noticed van Dam regularly following Westerfield, trying to get closer to him and make eye contact, said a deputy who asked not to be identified.

Van Dam also asked questions about how and when Westerfield would be moved to the courtroom, the deputy said.

"He almost appeared like he wanted to do something to him or he was going to have something done to him," the deputy said.

The deputies warned van Dam last week to stay away from Westerfield.

But on Monday they took the issue to Judge William Mudd after a deputy saw van Dam staring at Westerfield through a window on the courtroom door before the proceedings began. When the deputy asked van Dam what he needed, van Dam replied, "I just want to let him know I'm here."

[Freedom2specul8]

see #60

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I like your ramble, mommya. If people are honest with themselves and imagine the scenario, most would agree.

I few years ago our daughter lived with us because her husband was deployed overseas. My granddaughter was 8 months old.

Both of our girls and one of our grandkids had the tendency to spike a very high temperature with even a mild illness when they were babies and toddlers.

One morning at about 3:00 am my daughter rushed into our room with the baby in her arms. She was limp, her eyes were rolling back and she was somewhat unresponsive. I was scared to death. But even at that, we tried to think for a minute if we should drive her to the hospital or call 911.

While checking her, a foamy substance started coming from her mouth. That was it. The call was made immediately. As it turned out (as I suspected) she had had a febrile seizure. Unbeknownst to us, she had an ear infection and that temperature shot up suddenly in the middle of the night.

My point is......we were terribly frightened, but the call was almost more terrifying because we were acknowledging to ourselves that it was serious. We felt horrible dread.

I believe that most people would want so badly to believe that she had to be somewhere in the neighborhood that they would thoroughly check that first. Naturally, that is why the 911 operator asked them if they had.

All would be different if it had been dark or the middle of the night. But since it was well into daylight, there would be a good chance that a 7-year-old would have gone outside and was playing somewhere.

I think the call may have been made right after the supposed discovery because they knew Danielle wasn't going to turn up. Sooner or later it had to be reported. There was plenty of time after the night before to get the story in order and then play it out.

I know that smears some people's red lipstick and interrupts other's porn obsession, but I think it is a definite possibility.

Her death may have been intentional or accidental, but the parents' involvement makes a lot more sense than Stealth Ninja Dave.

[bvw]

You are close, Kim. Getting closer. Keep following that bit of light.

[Freedom2specul8]

after reading what spunky wrote, you should have doubts..someone just wants to get brenda in trouble...victim's advocates are bystanders...but are a support system for the victims. They will NOT lie about that.

[pyx]

...Others are sure the blood on the jacket, the child porn...have pointed police in the right direction...whether it's dw or his son

Your being tolerant of the call for vigilante justice, is interesting. So, maybe we should kill both David Alan Westerfield and David Niel Westerfield ? How about wiping out DAW's daughter ? And since we're in the killin' mood, why not take out Susan L. and her kids too.

[the Deejay]

"Uhmmm, it was at the request of the sheriff, not the defense."


Correct. DAMON scared the wholly hell out of the court bailifs with his actions. The defense had nothing to do with Damon getting banned.

[the Deejay]

Damon & Brenda don't need a support system. They need a controlling body. Someone to control their attitudes & emotions. IMO. They act like spoiled brats!

[spectre]

Before I leave...it is apparent that you will believe anything the van dams say, Kim. One lies, and the other swears to it.

They have lost a child, and God only knows at this point, how it happened. Not in my wildest, most desperate point of absolute loneliness, would I EVER even contemplate having these two as friends..They are that morally bankrupt.

I'd die first.

sw

[Freedom2specul8]

Not a ramble...Below is what I wrote last night about 911...I would add to it that I agree with you in part..I would go crazy sitting by the phone or waiting..but yes I would send hubby out to search the neighborhood while waiting for the police. Of course each person is different in how they handle it.. I don't think the cops could keep me at the house..but I would want someone by the home phone while I looked.

Dialing 911 so quickly is NOT abnormal. If a child, especially 7yrs old is missing from the house..at that age, and the yards and garage are checked... it's time to get help. Time is of the essence, especially in the big cities. Not only do you have to ''wait'' for the cops to get there..but THEN you have to wait for them to do their routine before they declare the child missing themselves. That takes precious time. IF the child is found, everyone's happy, alert or call is over and the police are HAPPY that they don't have to find a missing child. We have alerts that go out over radio, tv news..so people can be on the look out..extra eyes looking for the missing child. So far, the child the record's been great. Mostly runaways over age 12

[the Deejay]

"would I EVER even contemplate having these two as friends..They are that morally bankrupt."


I "second" that.

[Beach_Babe]

So that's what my first instinct was ... to frantically search myself. In my terrified mind, it never occurred to me to call the police.

Same thing recently happened to me. I was talking on the phone while minding my six-year old grandson. When I got off the phone he wasn't in the house. We have a seven acre piece of property which backs a lake. I checked the bathrooms and porches, ran around the yard and headed to the lake...yelling his name the entire time. I was frantic! Then I headed to his house...which is on the other side of the same property...to enlist his mom's help in the search. I found him there, quietly eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. He said he was hungry, didn't want to disrupt my phone call, so went home on his own to get lunch.

I wasn't fearful that a stranger got him...we are at the end of a dirt road...no one can get on the property without being noticed...but we do have gators. Here's a photo of my mom and a neighbor with one we caught last night...

[Freedom2specul8]

Believing in the prosecution's case, or their evidence or both does not equate with vigilante justice. Vigilante justice is wanting him hung BEFORE the trial...sort of like the way the some are wanting to hang damon. Did you watch the movie "the green mile"..the book was better, but the movie was an awesome example of vigilante justice.. The main character in the green mile was lucky he didn't get killed when he was found holding the murdered twins.

[mommya]

I wasn't saying there were necessarily drugs all over the place - but it is likely that folks who are recreational drug users have stuff around thier house - how do you think that stuff gets smoked - Rich said it was in an envelope when he gave it to Brenda - how'd it turn into a joint - rolling papers. They likely had paraphanalia around.
Of course you are entitled to think that you'd have called 911 immediately - but I believe you are in the minority.
I'm not sure what you are getting at with the neighbor thinking Danielle was still in bed.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I think about 90% of their so-called emotion is a ruse anyway. If anybody doesn't believe that the van Dams have been told how observers thought they acted abnormally for grieving parents through most of this, he or she is mighty naive.

There is a lot of anger about these parents. Whether or not it was passively or actively, a good many people think they are responsible for what happened. It undoubtedly plays in favor of the defendant even if he is guilty.

I think a handler or two....maybe the PR folks...told them they needed to work on drawing more sympathy. Ater all, Brenda is going to want to sell a lot of books.

[JudyB1938]

Thank you for your post, because I was feeling a belated guilt that I didn't think to call the police 40 years ago. Of course, there was no such thing in 911 in those days.

Do you get to eat that gator? Yummm! :0)

[Freedom2specul8]

"Damon & Brenda don't need a support system. "

I am not surprised to hear one of ya'll say that.

[the Deejay]

OMGOSH! Where DO you live???? LOL!!

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Oops...... Ater = after