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7/8/02 | commieprof

Posted on 07/08/2002 4:52:12 PM PDT by commieprof

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To: Texas_Longhorn
Read history? She has laid out her limits: Zinn. Facts and understanding interests and motives of thirdworlders that are hard to pin as responsive to American evils are ignored because they don't help further the project of making and maintaining an anti-American narrative. That' what they live for, that's their political identity, and identity which brings them fellings of superiority and benevolence in one.

Too add, she's one of the number of lefties who respond to criticism as if it were censorship. Susan Sontag started this rant. Partly this arises from the feeling of loss coming from the fact that the current crisis doesn't fit the anti-American narrative well, or at least they can't act as the politically correct filter to hide the facts from their audiences and friends. Mostly it arises from the fact they see speech as a political tool, rather than a right or virtue.

81 posted on 07/08/2002 6:01:25 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: commieprof
When Madeline Albright said that the deaths of 5,000 children a month in Iraq as a result of U.S. sanctions were a reasonable price to pay for U.S. foreign policy objectives, I reacted with the same level of disgust that you are bombarding me with now.

You should recognize nonsense like that by the stench Meddling Halfbright leaves on it. This notion of '5000 dead Iraqi children a day owing to US sanctions' is a myth arising from the (deliberate?) misinterpretation of a UN population study of Iraq done in the wake of the war. The study showed that Iraq's population was smaller than it would have been had the war not occurred, and that the difference was largely due to a lower birth rate - as opposed to war casualties, disease, pogroms, bombing and so on. This numerical difference between how many Iraqi children there would have been and how many there actually were came to mean - with the help of the lazy and stupid media - that those children had died. This nonsense has been floating around the net ever since, and goes pretty much unchallenged.

As an aside, have you noticed how, when the economic sanctions on Iraq are mentioned in the context of keeping nukes out of Saddam's hands, they are described - accurately - as the UN sanctions, but when mentioned in the context of the suffering of the Iraqi people they are described as the US sanctions? Just wondering if you had ever noticed that.

Meddling Halfbright is a damned fool whose major accomplishment was blundering her way into a someone else's shooting war on the side of unsavory Islamofascists. (That, and blowing up the Chinese embassy.) You don't have to be one as well, so drop this bit about the dead Iraqi children.

I share your disgust over the death threats. Every nut job has an email account these days. But remember the Arkansas church-burning 'crisis' of a few years ago, where a few churches were burned and the media tried to pin it on right-wing talk radio? It turns out, some were the work of a Satanic cult, some were accidental, some were insurance fires, and one was started by a black man to drum up buiness for a relative's construction company. You never saw a story disappear so fast. Just remember that some of those threats are coming from left-wing crazies who can't stand to see a socialist prophet go unpersecuted.

82 posted on 07/08/2002 6:01:37 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: commieprof
"I think freedoms should be expanded, not curtailed"

What about economic freedom? Freedom from government regulation. You should read this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi dos/ASIN/0226320618/qid=102617 6528/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-3606001-4955954
83 posted on 07/08/2002 6:02:36 PM PDT by Texas_Longhorn
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To: Texas_Jarhead
You are right. This bum is ripping off the taxpayers of Texas. Not Iowa.
84 posted on 07/08/2002 6:04:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Abundy

Lazamataz, age 2
85 posted on 07/08/2002 6:04:59 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: supercat
Many factory workers were poorly paid and worked in lousy conditions,

It is significant that they left the fields to work in those factories...

86 posted on 07/08/2002 6:05:05 PM PDT by marron
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To: redbaiter
I remember Albright on that. Lefties hang onto that - they need education that she is a dummy and fears saying "I don't know". It was pathetic.

Floating around? That's and understatement. That UN report is the Magna Carta of leftist anti-Americanism, Accepted as gospel in Arab lands, and even indirectly referenced by Osama. The whole discourse about Iraqi babies is a leftist hate crime.

I thought they would drop it when Saddam announced his own embargo.

To cure that lefty agitprop, a big explanation campaign would be needed.

87 posted on 07/08/2002 6:08:19 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Cicero
I thought you'd enjoy this one...
88 posted on 07/08/2002 6:09:30 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: commieprof
First, if you want to be listened to, stop using words like oppression and liberation. Propagandistic garbage. Say exactly what you mean.

Second, you take on far too much for any person to hope to reply to - listing every leftist accusation you can think of. I'll attempt a brief reply to your garbage about "Israel's wars of occupation". Any reasonable reading of the Arab-Israeli conflict leads to Jabotinski's characterization before the Peel Commission in 1937. Paraphasing - two incompatible peoples are struggling for one piece of land in order to perpetuate their way of life. If the Jews win the Arab way of life will survive in other parts of the Arab world. If the Arabs win the Jewish way of life may disappear from the earth. Nothing much has changed since '37. The Jewish wars of occupation are a part of this struggle. You may have some vision of a peaceful settlement. I don't. You want to blame the suffering of the Palestinians on the greed of the Israelis. I can't tell you the rage that I feel towards you.

Third, there's something wrong with your argument about 4% of the people controlling 60% of the resources. We had quite a bit to do with making those resources useful. For example, of what use was oil to a nation of camel drivers? And so on. I won't elaborate.

Fourth, you ought to reference your original post. You aren't the center of the world. Many of us either didn't see it, didn't think to read it, or didn't care to read it. Fifth, everything I've said is in response to only a paragraph of two. Frankly, I found the reading turgid and difficult. I'll try to struggle through the remainder - out of common decency - but I make no promises.

89 posted on 07/08/2002 6:11:45 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: commieprof
Here's Dr. Dana Cloud (University of Texas) as she appears today:

Associate Professor Dana Cloud's homepage

90 posted on 07/08/2002 6:16:09 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: commieprof; All
I forgot to mention that I hope you credit FreeRepublic in the "research" paper you plan to publish based on your little test here at FreeRepublic.

Donations are accepted.

91 posted on 07/08/2002 6:16:29 PM PDT by Fzob
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To: commieprof
Alliegence to Iraq....does this include the Kurds who have been gassed and are still suffering the effects to this day?

Palestine.... including the suicide bombers and rabid anti-Semetism and third generation refugees. If it weren't for being on the UN dole (mostly U.S. dollars) maybe they'd have settled some land and built an economy.

As for economics....it's not about resources why did Hong Kong develop so well with not resources, as opposed to Tanzania which has plenty of resources.
It's all about economic freedom, there are two ways to exchange things of value through dollars or force, this is why capitalism is the only moral system.

92 posted on 07/08/2002 6:16:34 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: commieprof
Dear Dana:

That sure is a lot of "rhetoric" in your kollege profile.

BTW, is one of your fantasies to be dominated by a Soviet Bull-dyke in some dark and dank gulag?

I'm sure it is. ;-)

I hear it's hot in Austin, these days. Have a cup of Kool-Aid....I'll mix it for ya!

93 posted on 07/08/2002 6:20:29 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: commieprof
My, what a cowardly, fearful little collection of idiocies.

No wonder you won't defend a word of it.

94 posted on 07/08/2002 6:20:58 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: liberallarry
Palestine? I think it can be summed up contemporarily this way:

Two years ago Arafat walked away from the Clinton Plan.

For two years Palis and Western useful idiots tried to create an explanation blaming Israel.

Last month, Arafat proclaimed that he accepted the Clinton Plan.

Two years of devastation for the Palestinians due to Arafat.

On the left, nothing but silence.

95 posted on 07/08/2002 6:21:07 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: The KG9 Kid

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96 posted on 07/08/2002 6:21:07 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: The KG9 Kid
Well.. is this Pinko Bimbette going to respond or has she made her pronouncement to the masses and retired to contemplate the premature departure of Che....
97 posted on 07/08/2002 6:21:55 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: commieprof
You have a daughter??

That means some male had sex with you at least once!!?!?!

I think that I am going to be sick. You disgust me in every way possible.

God bless your poor daughter and God save you if he feels that it is right to do so.

Eaker

PS: Abortion is murder. You should be in jail.

98 posted on 07/08/2002 6:23:28 PM PDT by Eaker
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To: Texas_Longhorn
Re: #67

I found that assertion (on her part) particularly repugnant.
99 posted on 07/08/2002 6:24:09 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: liberallarry
Frankly, I found the reading turgid and difficult. I'll try to struggle through the remainder - out of common decency - but I make no promises.

That's OK, Larry. Like you said, it's just the "same ol' same ol' ". Freeper responses are much more entertaining and a heck of a lot more informative.

100 posted on 07/08/2002 6:24:27 PM PDT by scan58
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