Hadayat Belonged to Egyptian Jihad, al Qaeda s Operational Arm (and our media knows nothing of this)

Debka ^ | July 5, 2002

[mad_as_he$$]

Well Debka's reliability is sometimes questionable. Be careful treating it as the gospel.

[tallhappy]

Debka is attacked a lot.

Debka usually knows these sort of things, though. Even the Debka haters (a strange lot) admit that.

Debka was the first I saw yesterday that said he was Egyptian.

[thegreatbeast]

A lot more must be learned before we can put this all together but you have to hand it to the Israelis: they called this terrorism while we were standing around trying to push it onto some other causal effect.
One thing in the article doesn't make sense about the Egyptian crash of 1991. A bunch of Egyptian Air Force officers are not going to join a suicide plot as suggested here. Operationally it doesn't make any sense. Why would you want to waste so many valuable assets in a single suicide mission?

[pabianice]

As of this morning, not one US Main Stream Marxist press has yet mentioned that this guy was a Muslim, as were 100% of the other airport/airplane terrorists in the US since 1982. Cowards.

[Goldwater Girl]

Perhaps they were the real target? Terrorists would probably prefer not to have highly skilled local military tracking their operations.

[John_11_25]

Why would you want to waste so many valuable assets in a single suicide mission?

I have read about this plane crash on Antiwar.com, it was reported it was the pilot that was the Jihadi.

If the above story is true, maybe this "quite well educated man, befriended some of the pilots to get specific info, of who was going to be on the plane etc etc.

The terror organisations in Egypt are anti government, so nothing would please them more than to take out military or diplomats.

[Vic3O3]

No kidding! Exactly how can Egyptian officers training in 1997-98, be on an airplane that crashed in 1991, killing all on board? Maybe they've perfected timetravel??

[swarthyguy]

Must be a typo but wasn't the EgyptAir Suicide Crash in 1999. The assertion that the pilot had help from the egyptian military members on boards; maybe, but the copilot, a jihadi would certainly have enough reason to want to kill secularists in the Egyptian armed forces with or without the help of the passengers.

[Clara Lou]

What are "Debka-haters"? Are you referring to people who regularly follow Debka reports and find that Debka makes a significant number of mistakes? That doesn't make people "Debka-haters."

[Tacis]

But, if this guy was "connected," that makes his actions all the more curious and less likely to be terrorism. He has to have known about El Al security. He has to have known that his effect would be minimal and he has to have known that there were for more promising targets. As a limo driver in LA, he would know about and, probably, have access to Jewish weddings of the children of influential folks.

If he had been involved in the destruction of the EgyptAir flight, he would have known about far more strategic places to attack. He has to have known that what he set out to do could only add to El Al's reputation without doing it any damage.

My bet is that he was pissed about something, got some cheap s**t from a young female representing the Israelis, and went off the deep end. Again, just think of the damage he might have done with a much better planned attack. What he did makes sense from the etrrorist perspective only if he was meant to be a diversion.

[inflorida]

On October 31, 1991, an Egyptair Boeing 767 Flight 990, which also took off from Los Angeles airport, never reached its destination of Kennedy, New York. The plane plunged into the Atlantic off the Nantucket Island, Mass. coast, killing all 217 passengers and crew.

Egypt Air flight 990 went down on October 31, 1999 and killed 217 people. It took off from JFK and was going to Cairo, Egypt. I have never heard of a flight 990 that went down in '91.

[swarthyguy]

That's what i thought. Flt 990 did originiate in LA, however, the return leg of a Cairo-NYC-LA run.

[Cachelot]

A bunch of Egyptian Air Force officers are not going to join a suicide plot as suggested here. Operationally it doesn't make any sense. Why would you want to waste so many valuable assets in a single suicide mission?

This isn't exactly new. The point was that they were western-friendly airforce officers. They cleaned out a bunch of anti-jihadists in one swoop.

Nothing like a little assassination game for our friendly Egyptians. They're old hands at it.

[Migraine]

As of this morning, not one US Main Stream Marxist press has yet mentioned that this guy was a Muslim, as were 100% of the other airport/airplane terrorists in the US since 1982. Cowards.

Yeah, but he WASN'T between the ages of 18-40 (he was 41). So there. ALL of you right-wing stereotypers are wrong, wrong, wrong, ALL of the time. /sarcasm

[Cachelot]

Egypt Air flight 990 went down on October 31, 1999 and killed 217 people

Someone goofed. Bad proofreading, perhaps. The report referred (two years ago) was about the 1999 crash.

[Cachelot]

Probably a typo. The Debka site now reads:

"Hadayat is also believed to have abetted a previous, contrived airline disaster: On October 31, 1999, an Egyptair Boeing 767 Flight 990, which also took..."

[Torie]

For a secret operative, he sure seemed a bit inept, and in the larger scheme of things, went for rather small game to mark his final exit.

[eclectic]

For a secret operative, he sure seemed a bit inept, and in the larger scheme of things, went for rather small game to mark his final exit.

Are you kidding? Only extreme professionalism of the El-Al guards saved the day. This had the potential of being a MAJOR bloodbath. Everybody admits that!

[quidnunc]

Radio talk-show host Michael Medved says that DEBKAfile is right about 60% of the time, but is often spectacularly wrong.

One of the perp's weapons was a .40 Glock with extra magazines.

My question: If the perp was a lone wolf how did he as an alien manage to get his hands on two handguns?