Posted on 06/30/2002 5:51:46 AM PDT by csvset
Well you could have asked me, since I was the one using that argument.
Dogs in general do trust and serve people in general. "Guard dog" is a specialty that builds on the dog's natural tendencies to protect his pack, his family, is master. He will defend that master to his death without question... Are you telling me you don't recognize the responsibility that master has to treat that devotion with respect and returned loyalty? That is the trust, that is the contract.
I find a certain inspiration in the nobility and seemingly infinite patience that I've seen in my dogs. They have been my teachers in how to be a better person. It's a debt I hope I am in some way able to re-pay by returning as much of their devotion to me with my own toward them. Anything less saddens me.
Typical American. There is only one way and that is our way.
The PC line that you don't want to have anything to do with is an American line. The rest of the world does not concern itself with what you eat even though many in the world are digusted that you eat cow and many others that you eat pork.
The pigs you eat, by the way, make as good a pet as your little bull dog. And I would not worry about anyone wanting to eat you little bull dog anyhow. Too ugly.
Maybe... however, in dogs there is a more innate attachment that ought to bother us. Dogs were created by us, and characteristics that made them docile and obedient pets and workers have been nurtured. The yellow labrador that he is dragging in the article photo was created and carefully bred to be tractable and obedient by nature. It turns my stomach. I am sorry it doesn't turn yours...
The other whole half of the conversation I was responding to in that post dealt with the side issue of selling old horses for meat... That is the maltreatment and breach of trust I was speaking to as well.
I agree with you about the nobility of some dogs. I would have to say that I trust my dog more that some people I have to deal with.
I think you are mixing two types of dogs.
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Maybe it's an imported breed. Native breed dosen't produce alot of meat. That's why they import Saint Bernard.
Owning an ordinary pet or a guard dog isn't the same as raising dogs for food. If those dogs trust the farmers (or whatever you call them) raising them, then so would pigs or cows.
Not too many people who aren't sadistic psychopaths would kill their food by stringing it up by the neck and beating it to death. The more brutal and painful the better according to these "people".
We have not bred cows to have the same level of attachment to us... their personalities have not been nurtured to adore and seek our affection, and they don't perform work for us in the hope of gaining our approval.
Our contract with cattle is "free food".... I think our contract with dogs is higher. I am sorry if you don't agree, but I am not going to change my view on this one. I like my world better than yours.
Exactly right. Not that I would eat a dog or anything, but many people forget that those who live in Asian countries are often starving and will eat practically anything that moves. I probably would too if I was going hungry.
The contract the farmers have with those food dogs is no higher than "free food for meat", so you don't have to feel sorry for the farm dogs. It's business. Their raise dogs for survival so that they can put food on the table to feed their families and enjoy their affection like the one that you have towards your dogs.
Are you honestly serious? LOL! You really aren't being fair to cows, it's not their fault that they just aren't smart enough to know when to save people from burning buildings. The same with deer and sheep, they are pretty dumb too, so we don't expect a lot out of them as animals, besides jumping in front of moving cars at night. Dogs have more animal intelligence than cows do, but they are still fair game in starving countries. If you were faced with starvation or eating a dog, I don't think that you would have to debate that one for too long.
"This is true."
LOL!
By the way, what was the point about tan Asian women being un-date worthy in their own countries? Perhaps back in ancient Asian culture, pale skin was a sign of refinement and beauty, but I do not believe that is the case anymore.
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