Posted on 06/17/2002 4:40:34 PM PDT by Nebullis
I have. I gave you the example of viruses. Others have shown how impossible it is to make a living cell at random.
More importantly though, you, donh and others who continue to insist that abiogenesis is possible continue to refuse to give even a hypothesis as to how such a thing could have occurred. So yes, abiogenesis is total bunk according to science. However, keep listening to the Art Bell show, I am sure that your beliefs, like just about any other crackpot beliefs out there, will be given due consideration on the show.
Microkernel design for the operating system and a plug-in API for the program.
You cannot get away from design. You are pushing it back a step (if what you say is true, which I doubt and would like to see you back it up, but I am sure you will not) but you are essentially verifying my statement. It takes design, not random chance to alter a program.
Okay, let's take WinAmp. First of all the program WinAmp was designed to take plugins. Second of all the plugins are designed to work with WinAmp. So again, you cannot change a program at random, you need design to do it. Oh and one more thing no program ever wrote itself at random.
You overlook the obvious every time. If you refuse to look up the simplest of facts for yourself, you will always be arguing from a position of ignorance and will have to continue your reliance on insults.
A great many people read these posts other than just the posters and they deserve some consideration and respite from your spamming. Additionally, pointing out your unrelenting obstinacy with respect to acknowledging even simplest of facts is a useful reminder to the readers why most people consider it a waste of time to address your posts at all.
int MyClass::buildDate(int hours)
int MyClass::buildDate(int hours, int days)
int MyClass::buildDate(int hours, int days, int weeks)
And polymorphism has to be used intelligently so in a way it is both seemingly random and intentional. You use which ever method you want to use and the compiler intelligently discerns which one you used during compilation. In the end, whoever tried to use software development as an example to support evolution or even to refute it must have been smoking crack because it can go half way on both sides.
To: Doctor Stochastic
In other words you were lying. No one has gotten a Nobel Prize for any work on evolution. As usual with evolutionists, they are never willing to back up their claims because they are lying.
213 posted on 6/30/02 10:56 AM Eastern by gore3000
Perhaps you could be a bit more speicific about where exactly in the Bible the explanation of how God created man is. I looked and I can't find it. Specific stuff about how He came up with the notion of cells, what was the purpose of having us need to eat, anything along those lines. I don't understand why there is nothing in the Bible that was not known to those alive when it was written, zero. Nothing about electrons or the speed of light. Nothing about the Americas or Antarctica. Nothing about kangaroos or dinosaurs.
You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. Why is that so offensive to people like you?
I appologize for giving you the impression your opinion offends me. It does not.
Nice red herring.
Try starting in Genesis 1:1. Let me know when you've finished the chapter.
Amen! I've put the blues behind me and I've never felt cleaner!
Maybe I can be of help here. A "creationist" is one who believes in "Creationism." From www.dictionary.com, we find that "Creationism" is defined as:
The (false) belief that large, innovative software designs can be completely specified in advance and then painlessly magicked out of the void by the normal efforts of a team of normally talented programmers. In fact, experience has shown repeatedly that good designs arise only from evolutionary, exploratory interaction between one (or at most a small handful of) exceptionally able designer(s) and an active user population - and that the first try at a big new idea is always wrong. Unfortunately, because these truths don't fit the planning models beloved of management, they are generally ignored.
I hope this helps.
No, it is up to the person making an assertion to back up their statements, I do, so can you and Dr. Stochastic. Obviously he was lying so he cannot back it up so he sends his friends to make excuses for him. Sad.
We are in complete agreement on the above and in fact, just about everything you said, except your conclusion. However, what donh does not realize, and you did not mention is that the 'plug in' also has to be designed - to fit into the program, in fact, it is another program. It has to 'know' the program it is being plugged into an adjust its workings to it. You will note that all programs that take plug ins have long reference sheets as to how such programs need to be written. So of course, a modifying 'plug in' in programming and in the DNA code would need an intelligent designer itself.
I did not say there was for 'biology'. There is a Nobel Prize for Physiology and Medicine which clearly encompasses biology and which has been won for example by the destroyers of evolution, the discoverers of DNA. So as usual Patrick, you are indulging in lame semantic lies in an attempt to pull out your lying friend from the pit he dug for himself.
Yup, ignorance is bliss, that's how come you cannot and never could refute my statements. Stay in your little evolutionist hole, don't look at the world around you because hey, it may prove your stupid theory wrong.
So, I was right and you haven't looked it up. How sad, how assinine, how pitiful, how blue.
Science can say there is no known rational material explanation for an event, and no more.
I will not hang around for the almost inevitable name-calling and exchange of personal insults that insues once people are backed into a corner. It was a good win for truth, and I am going to cut and paste my exchanges on this thread into a doc. file for reference.
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