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TANCREDO, IMMIGRATION REFORM CAUCUS TO CALL FOR TROOPS ON BORDER
Immigration Reform Caucus ^ | 6/17/02 | Immigration Reform Caucus

Posted on 06/17/2002 1:50:25 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan

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To: Luis Gonzalez
So you're OK with local police cooperating with the INS and apprehending Illegals for deportation where they find them?

Do you support or oppose Drivers' Licences for Illegals?

Do you support or oppose the use of matricular consul (sp?) IDs for Illegals?

Should Illegals be allowed to open bank accounts in the US?

Should children who are themselves Illegals be allowed to attend taxpayer funded schools?

Are you OK with round-ups of Illegals at "day laborer" sites?

The IRS is currently sending letters to employers notifying them that some employees are using false Social Security numbers. As a result, these employees, many of whom are Illegals, are being fired, but not deported. Shouldn't the IRS cooperate with the INS and other law enforcement on this, rather than giving a warning to Illegals to get out of Dodge?

Do you support any "regularization" or "normalization" programs that Amnesty Illegals, such as Section 245(i)?

If so, does it bother you that these Illegals displace law-abiding immigrant candidates who are willing to play by the rules?



221 posted on 06/18/2002 10:28:08 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: PRND21
Ridiculous, indeed.

Hardly. It's a crime for them to come here.

You've said yourself they should be deported.




222 posted on 06/18/2002 10:42:07 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Do you support or oppose the use of matricular consul (sp?) IDs for Illegals?

I support the use of matricular cards.

For me it is prima facia evidence of illegal status in the US and makes it easier for me to remove them.

But, I don't think any businesses or organizations, other then the INS, should except them.

223 posted on 06/18/2002 10:43:47 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
For me it is prima facia evidence of illegal status in the US and makes it easier for me to remove them.

Bingo.

They are licenses to commit crime.




224 posted on 06/18/2002 10:47:55 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I think the Mexican government should give one to every illegal.

There are so proud of them, they will show it to me when I ask for it. They will hide their fake green card and SSN card, but they will proudly show their matricular card.

225 posted on 06/18/2002 10:51:41 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth
Hardly

They're not coming to the USA to take real jobs. Their coming here to commit crimes.

Your agreement with that falsehood is disapointing.

226 posted on 06/18/2002 10:52:32 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Your agreement with that falsehood is disapointing.

Begging the question by way of misrepresentation.

By definition, all Illegals are criminals. They are breaking the law by being here.

They also break the law when they take jobs. All of these things are crimes.

All of these crimes are things Illegals do intentionally. It's what they plan to do when the cross the border. They intend to commit crimes.

Illegals come here to commit crimes.




227 posted on 06/18/2002 11:01:54 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Mexico’s World Cup soccer team will be sneaking in soon to look for new jobs.
228 posted on 06/18/2002 11:07:41 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth
Avoiding the cause again?
A horrid generalization on your part.
The xenophobes are already working on a graphic, I'm sure.
229 posted on 06/18/2002 11:09:36 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Marine Inspector
Mexico’s World Cup soccer team will be sneaking in soon to look for new jobs.

At least one plays for the L.A. Galaxy. So, I suppose you're right.

230 posted on 06/18/2002 11:19:06 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Avoiding the cause again?

A horrid generalization on your part.

Dude, you've said yourself you'd deport the Illegals.

Why is that? Because they're lawbreakers.

Lawbreakers are criminals. That's not a generalization, that's a definition.

You're avoiding the truth, again.

Let's get to it... You claim you'd deport Illegals, but you're one of their biggest apologists on this forum. You oppose every statement critical of them, regardless of the inherent truth contained therein. Why is that?




231 posted on 06/18/2002 11:22:37 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: PRND21
Go get'm, Stickshift. Rally the La Raza Cong and defeat the wicked 'Tooth.

Did you lose any pesos on the soccer match?
232 posted on 06/18/2002 11:25:28 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Sabertooth
Dude, you've said yourself you'd deport the Illegals, etc.

Ad hominems on sale?
Better get a bigger kitty picture again, you're slipping.
Talk about avoiding the truth.

Jobs, dude, jobs.

233 posted on 06/18/2002 11:41:07 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Regulator
BORTAC is a useless organization.
234 posted on 06/18/2002 11:43:43 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Pelham
Did you lose any pesos on the soccer match?

No, I won $10 bucks off the illegal that cleans your sheets.
USA! USA! USA!

235 posted on 06/18/2002 11:44:26 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
**Dude, you've said yourself you'd deport the Illegals, etc.

*Ad hominems on sale?

I presume you're aware that ad hominem fallacies are about name-calling.

Since I didn't call you names, you just engaged in a non sequiter.

Jobs, dude, jobs.
Laws, dude, laws.

Jobs for Illegals are not our responsibility, they're the responsibility of the home countries to where you've said you think the Illegals need to be deported.




236 posted on 06/18/2002 11:48:50 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: PRND21
The xenophobes are already working on a graphic, I'm sure.

On the subject of fallacies, here you flirt with both ad hominem and guilt-by-association.

Nice string you've got going.




237 posted on 06/18/2002 11:52:10 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Gimme a Border Patrol Volunteer Reserve, where American men not serving in the military can be trained to assist the Border Patrol in some sort of supervised support capacity. We could serve two week shifts once or twice a year.

Aint gunna happen....

238 posted on 06/18/2002 11:55:48 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Sabertooth
I think we all know what two replies to the same comment means...
Happy treading.
239 posted on 06/19/2002 12:14:44 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Wise of you not to bet on your Aztlan pals.
240 posted on 06/19/2002 12:15:26 AM PDT by Pelham
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