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RadioFR SPECIAL EDITION!! COMMUNITY ARMED PATROLS An idea whose time has come?
WITH SPECIAL GUEST RABBI YAKOVE LLOYD
Founder and President of Jewish Defense Group
Posted on 06/17/2002 1:50:25 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
Next ridiculous objection?
LOL!
Why does the mission need so many riflemen? Aircav and mobile infantry are exactly what border patrolling reqires. The job is herding unarmed civilians back to where they came from, not engaging enemy infantry.
The Border Patrol is civilian law enforcement, so their job is enforcing the law, not stopping an invasion. Why keep them at a job they've never been able to handle since their formation?
NAFTA isn't a treaty. It has no force of law whatsoever and can be dropped like a hot rock at a moment's notice by a simple act of congress. It's a trade agreement not a treaty.
Apparently you think I wouldn't answer a draft summons. I'm 49 years old, but I would volunteer without being called if subject to the draft, just as I did when I carried a draft card in the early 70's. Maybe this time they wouldn't turn me down, who knows?
We don't need to invade Mexico or to go to war with them unless they prove willing to force the issue. Their illegal invaders can be stopped without much of a show of force. We do need at least a token show of force, apparently. Having a president who smooches up to the Mexican politicians who are doing this to us is pretty maddening. As long as that little daddy's boy is in office, nothing will be done anyway.
Oh, really? It's that simple?
And the Coast Guard will magically build up its fleet in zero time (never mind that there aren't enough shipyard slips for WMEC/WHEC construction), as well as train up hundreds of thousands of Coastguardsmen to crew those new ships...
And all for only $79 billion.
Next ridiculous objection?
Yeah, where are you going to come up with the REST of the money the Coast Guard would need?
Be careful, the U.S. Coast Guard is a "Politically Correct" organization.
Because you're
Aircav and mobile infantry are exactly what border patrolling reqires.
Mech infantry can't GET to a lot of the border--that means you hump it on in foot. As for aircav, aircav units are notorious for missing what's going on right below them, even in desert.
The job is herding unarmed civilians back to where they came from, not engaging enemy infantry.
The mission is to control the border. That means "boots on the ground."
If you were going to wildly exaggerate the size of the Coast Guard force we'd need, why didn't you say millions?
LOL!
Yup. You'd need a friggin' HUGE Coast Guard to effectively patrol the seaboard and the Great Lakes. Most of the patrol boats don't have long-term living quarters aboard, so you'd have to build at least five for each patrol station (and there's a bunch of those). Then you have to add in people to pay those patrol boat crews, feed them, provide base security, and so on, and so on...
If you were going to wildly exaggerate the size of the Coast Guard force we'd need, why didn't you say millions?
Gosh, I guess you don't LIKE being shown reality.
Get real.
"The DOD is not supposed to operate within our borders."(part of mine) Where on earth did you ever get that idea? Can you tell me who or what is supposed to protect this country from foreign invasion?(part of yours)
What I obviously did not make clear was the fact the military, by design, is not to be used in enforcing federal laws and regulations internally.Should Mexico or Canada attempt to invade the USA by means of agressive force, you can bet the military will respond.But the invasion we are currently enjoying is the direct result of national civilian political policy.
I am not quite ready for this country to experience a military coup.I also object to the ignorant politicians who have put our military in "peacekeeping" roles throughout the world.
There is absolutely nothing more the DOD can do in regards our land borders unless they are given free reign to "secure" the perimeter.Our soldiers are not policemen or border guards.No one will be given Miranda rights.If and/or when they are ordered to seal our borders,we will all be under marshall law.Some want that to be the case now.
While I believe Tancredo is on the right track,in this particular little political posture,as a veteran, I find him deeply offensive and unconstructive.
The military won't be arresting anyone on the border. The military will be repelling illegal alien invaders. They don't have any rights in the United States, especially, if we never let them into the United States, in the first place. That's the whole idea!
You won't even see the military unless you try to cross the border where you're not supposed to.
Here's a clue. Don't do that!
That's not martial law. Everyone can still come and go as they please, LEGALLY! That's the magic word, LEGALLY!
Getting a handle on immigration and controlling our borders will be good for all of us and for Sara and her children, too.
Tonight, UNSPUN with AnnaZ and Mercuria!
RadioFR SPECIAL EDITION!! COMMUNITY ARMED PATROLS An idea whose time has come?
WITH SPECIAL GUEST RABBI YAKOVE LLOYD
Founder and President of Jewish Defense Group
We are talking about the systematic breaking of our laws and the stated objective of 'reclaiming' parts of America. This certainly sounds like the job for a national army.
Why is it our government and some of our citizens feel it is justified to go to another country and take up arms against its citizenry and protect its borders, but not our own.
Now the National Guard, as I understand it, is not totally a national army, it is somehow connected with the state, but haven't they been used within our borders?
I agree with nothing will change until something is done about the corporation who employee these people. But it has to be a total effort on all fronts. It can be done. But just a few well-chosen speeches by our President and his support for it would help. He is doing just the opposite.
Quite, frankly, I think we could do something, but we aren't even willing to make ourselves sacrifice even one of the so called cheap products of these people. So, in essence we deserve what we are getting - but our children and grandchildren do not.
Bottom line, if protecting our own country against invaders should not be the primary 'mission' of the military - then what is?
But the argument of 'It's just too big a problem, we can do nothing about it' is exactly what they want us to think. I hear a lot of people saying why we can't do something, but I hear no options other than, accept it.
Actually, as to the distinction of using a military only against a military, I believe I heard that fighter planes are now going to be given the orders to shoot down hijacked planes. Actually, 9/11 was not a military action (in your distinction), but would you have used the military to stop that if you had the opportunity?
The new 'armies' coming against us are not of the tank, helicopter, big gun type, at least from what I see. So what do we use against them?
I am serious when I ask for a solution. Many on here disagree as to the solution - so what would you do?
Texas? I truly don't insult people and don't intend this to be, but you don't sound like most of the Texans I know on this subject.
What would you do? Clearly the Border Patrol is at something of a disadvantage vis a vis the Mexican military.
Enforcing existing immigration laws and laws against employing illegal aliens won't stop these criminals. They're not coming to the USA to take real jobs. Their coming here to commit crimes.
We need walls along our borders and we need the military on those walls.
Ridiculous, indeed.
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