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Girl refused bathroom pass may sue teacher
The Miami Herald ^
| June 9, 2002
| Sofia Santana <ssantana@herald.com>
Posted on 06/10/2002 9:20:28 AM PDT by mvpel
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Even murderers in solitary confinement don't need to beg permission from their jailors to answer nature's call.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:20:35 AM PDT
by
mvpel
To: mvpel
I once had a teacher deny me a visit to the restroom. I told him, you either give me a pass or I am walking out. He gave me the pass.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:27:25 AM PDT
by
Jon Geb
To: all
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:29:15 AM PDT
by
WIMom
To: mvpel
Students need to be more assertive. By 7th grade any person in need of the bathroom facilities need not get permission for an emergency.
If a teacher physicallly interferes.........then arrest and or a lawsuit is justified. In any case, I would dismiss this teacher, union jerk or not!!
To: mvpel
This teacher will be looking for another job.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:42:10 AM PDT
by
Don Myers
To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I'm sorry, but classes are only 50 minutes long - She must have had to go when she went into class. Why didn't she go between classes? That would have made sense. While the teacher should have used more common sense here, a lawsuit is not justified.
To: mvpel
Let me see if I have this correct:
The taxpayers pay the saleries of the teachers and the bloat school system, and then they expect to have some say and accountability from the teachers and the school system.
Boy, these taxpayers really have some nerve, don't they know that the overpaid school system demands that they are accountable to no one.
It's a shame that this girl did'nt sh** on the stupid teachers desk, or better yet in his car with the windows closed.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:42:49 AM PDT
by
chiefqc
To: CA Conservative
The original story went into more detail. I believe the girl had a stomach illness or something.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT
by
FreeTally
To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN; Jon Geb; mvpel; summer; Teacher317; carolinamom
You people have obviously never taught school. If teachers let every student leave the room to go to the restroom at will, it would be impossible to conduct class, and some students would spend all their time in the restroom.
On the other hand, generally it is fairly obvious if the student is in actual distress. Not having been there, I can't tell for sure what happened in this case (and of course, neither can any of you.)
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:46:51 AM PDT
by
Amelia
To: mvpel
NOTHING could have forced most kids to actually have a bowel movement in class unless someone physically restrained them. Even a timid kid could have run out of the classroom at any time if it meant avoiding such an embarrassing accident. Even in this day and age, I doubt the door was locked. Run first and answer questions later, I always say! I can understand the girl's fear of his authority, especially if he humiliated her with the Pampers remark, but really! Someone needs to stand up for her and then remind her of her own responsibility in that situation. Teacher needs a reprimand and needs to apologize for being such a petty tyrant. Girl needs some personal confidence! The rules are there to prevent needless disruption of class, not to cause someone to actually soil themselves.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:48:18 AM PDT
by
lsee
To: CA Conservative
Shall we now have bladder monitors attached to the students?
This teacher's @ss is grass, AND the school will be coughing up big-time.
To: CA Conservative
You missed this, didn't you?
Sophia, 14, says she had a stomach ache April 24, but her teacher, Edwin Victor-Louis, did not give her a bathroom pass. Sophia says she asked several times and told Victor-Louis it was an emergency.
Sounds like she was sick which means sometimes you can't wait. Your body is intent on getting rid of whatever toxins is making it ill and it is going to do it right now.
a.cricket
To: CA Conservative
When you gotta go you gotta go. We don't want our schools turning into EST classes.
I remember a high school girl who was shamed by wetting her pants in class when the teacher refused her a bathroom pass -- she was a quiet conscientious student. She just had to go *then*, but the mean and overly-strict teacher (known to break rulers over kids heads -- and then make them pay for it) would not allow it.
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:55:39 AM PDT
by
bvw
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To: Jon Geb
I have to agree. People have become so conditioned as to ask permission for everything in our society. The obediance training starts in public schools. The young lady should have had the sense just to go to the head, and deal with the permission factor later. Sometimes common sense has to over-ride the authoritarian streak. If you stay that timid all your life, people who have no business doing so will tell you what to do for the rest of your life...
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posted on
06/10/2002 9:58:19 AM PDT
by
dvwjr
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To: mvpel
she should have taken the DUMP on the teacher's desk and rubbed her nose in it...Sir Percy Hot Spurs
To: bvw
Funny you should mention "EST". I have some relatives who "attended" and EST seminar. I had no idea what it was when they mentioned it. So I looked it up, and found out all about the silly mind/body control "games" that the EST "leaders" play. I couldn't believe any mature adult would willingly pay and put up with such nonsense. From what I understand the object is to get the suckers to agree to say that "They get it". No bathroom breaks are part of the cult control. Silly rabbits. They sound like this poor girl who fundamentally did not realize that life does not consist of asking permission to live your life.
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posted on
06/10/2002 10:02:45 AM PDT
by
dvwjr
To: mvpel
Flight-attendants-with-attitude: note well....
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posted on
06/10/2002 10:04:54 AM PDT
by
tracer
It sounds like this girl has some underlying issues! If I were ever in such a situation, you can be sure I'd just get up and leave. Someone needs to teach her some assertiveness! You need to be able to stand up for your own rights. Welcome to the real world.
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