The Last Words of Edmund Ruffin, Southern Patriot

1865 | Edmund Ruffin

[TEXASPROUD]

Hey Phantom, I thought "damnyankee" was just one word. Mom was from New York City, Dad was from Jackson, Georgia. It made life interesting when I was growing up.

[Lurking Libertarian]

vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Southern States!

So being enslaved is a good thing only when it happens to someone else, I see.

[billbears]

Considering that lincoln arrested the elected officials, put on the biggest voter fraud in the history of this nation to get unionists elected, and kept the state of Maryland within the union during the War, I can't very well call it a Southern state now can I? Yes, there were quite a few secessionists in that area in '61 but after four years of lincoln's tyranny, I imagine the secessionist movement had been quelled quite a bit

[billbears]

Actually the city of New York was considering leaving the union with the Southern states, as suggested by the mayor at the time

[Twodees]

Ruffin was regarded as a nutjob by his contemporaries. His suicide simply proved them right. Hatred is not the basis for Southern pride and love for our states, it's a mental disease that becomes more destructive and never ends in any positive outcome.

If those are truly his last words, then they are ravings of an insane man about to shoot himself in the head. Why treasure them?

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Not to mention the start of "one world government" i.e. the League of Nations, which eventually "morphed" into the United Nations!!!!

[Phantom Lord]

Man, another one. If when someone says "tea" you think of China then you are not a southerner. And I think it is safe to say that when you saw the word "tea" you knew exactly what I was talking about.

I love living down here and have no interest in EVER moving back north. It would take a job offer beyond my wildest dreams to even consider moving back. There is NO southern traditions or ways of life that I want to change. Do I want to see somethings added, yes. But who doesnt?

What I dont like is the way I am treated, referred to, and talked about by some southerners based solely on the location of my birth.

My introduction to southerners is this...

I moved to Raleigh on July 1, 1996. I pulled into the parking space infront of the townhome i was moving into at Dutch Village. I didnt have a "yankee car" or something different. I had a big, bad ass Dodge Ram Charger. A vehicle southerners like. Well, my new neighbor was standing infront of his townhome. He obviously saw the NY plate on the front of my truck. The second my foot hit the pavement and I was out of the truck he looked at me and said "Great, another fucking yankee." And then proceeded to go inside his townhome.

He was quickly introduced to Mr. Gibson Explorer and Mr. Marshall Stack.

[Lee'sGhost]

"We already did that. "

OK, how about a little reality here. YOU haven't done anything, any more than I have lost any wars -- Civil, Northern Aggression, Between the states or otherwise. And if you WERE somehow involved, I wouldn't consider it such a great thing to have taken four years to beat an enemy I out numbered 4 to 1.

You know, I take great pride in my Southern heritage and do so without bashing "Yankees." Believing that states had the right to secede does NOT dictate hatred of people from the North.

[brotherwolf]

I suggest not doing business with Ruffin Flag - My personal experience with them. They tried to take advantage of customers ordering flags after 9/11. They pretended to lose orders and then reconstruct the orders at new higher prices. What they shipped was not what I ordered and when I finally received the American Flag, the red stripes were not red, but wine colored. It took six months to get the mess straightened out. They never return phone calls and try to hide behind a "No returns" policy. (Even when they shipped material I didn't ordered.)

[Phantom Lord]

So, a NYer moving here and graduating from the UNC system or other school in NC and then working here and later being elected to office would make that person a "North Carolinian"?

I doubt you would agree to such a statement. All NC natives I have heard say you MUST be born here to be a North Carolinian.

And if being elected to office in a state makes you a Native, maybe Hillary really is a Life Long Yankee fan.

[Truthsayer20]

"Now I may be wrong here, but I would swear that Wilson was from NEW JERSEY......"

No matter where he originally came from the South voted for him heavily.

The map below shows the results for the presidential election of 1916. The darker the red the more support for Wilson.

[TexConfederate1861]

My Ancestor didn't own slaves either.....

[Ditto]

For me, the South means wonderful grandparents with integrity and humility; quilts being handed down in the family all the way from Virginia or North Carolina -- then through Tennessee and Kentucky -- before being gently draped on the edge of a family bed or rocking chair in Missouri; eating Oyster Dressing (from a several-hundred-year-old family recipe brought from Virginia) at Thanksgiving Dinner; and having Sunday dinner after church at my Grandmother's with lots of relatives gathered around several tables -- some makeshift -- to sample some of the best fried chicken in the world -- but always preceded by my Grandfather's saying of the blessing. I could go on and on, but I will rest my case here.

So what makes you think life is any different from that in the North? ---- unless you have been watching some stupid Hollywierd stereotype of the North?

[Poohbah]

Northerners are the spawn of Satan, didn't you know that?

[billbears]

No my point is that he shouldn't have been allowed to run for office outside of the state he was born in. With his views, I don't think he would have got very far in a run for governor of Georgia.

[Lee'sGhost]

"Man, another one. If when someone says "tea" you think of China then you are not a southerner."

Yo, chill man. It was a joke. I don't think of tea as going with China any more than I think of tea going with St. Louis. "He said, "Great, another fucking yankee." And then proceeded to go inside his townhome."

Oh, that would be a red neck (red neck in terms of the way we Southerners define them. Synonymous with "@sshole." Every population has their share. "He was quickly introduced to Mr. Gibson Explorer and Mr. Marshall Stack."

Huh?

[TexConfederate1861]

That is EXACTLY what I have been trying to tell them.... I have been knockin...but NOBODYS HOME!

[shuckmaster]

Abraham Lincoln's Private Porn Collection Found!

[billbears]

The same as Hillary running for office in NY. It should be in each state constitution as a requirement to hold office in that state. What you have when candidates cross states just to get elected for future possibilities at national political office is an elected official within the state that doesn't have the best views of their constituency in mind

[shuckmaster]

Compare that to the map of votes for Bush.