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Remembering June 1st - Could the pepper spraying and tree cutting happen again?
the Eugene Weekly ^ | 26 May 2002 | By Alan Pittman

Posted on 05/31/2002 11:32:52 PM PDT by Glutton

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1 posted on 05/31/2002 11:32:52 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: Glutton
Police Sniff Out Mother Of All Stink Bombs
2 posted on 05/31/2002 11:41:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Americans remember 9/11---Eugene remembers June 1st? Sometimes it`s tough living in Oregon
4 posted on 05/31/2002 11:47:02 PM PDT by bybybill
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5 posted on 06/01/2002 12:20:03 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: bybybill
It was quite a specticle. I was there. The cops had big boxes of empty pepperspray cans and deep fear in their eyes that the crowd was going to storm the site.

On one of their videotapes later, a voice matter of factly advised fellow cops to lock themselves in the police cars if the anarchists stormed in.

I saw on cop blast a big OC fogger into a couple of small children's faces. There were excesses there. Also Mayor Jim Torrey was the one who ordered the cops in.

In Eugene, only the City Manager has that authority. The mayor is a no pay position, and the big powers are photo ops, sister city visits, and tiebreaker votes at city council meetings.

Vicky Elmer was scewered for being out of town during this. They actually started consruction a week after this dog day afternoon of F Troop, Eugene style.

This was that year's big story here. In fact, that was the year many of the black clad anarchists settled in, and their numbers and organization is still growing here.

6 posted on 06/01/2002 12:24:16 AM PDT by Glutton
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To: bybybill
Yeah, you're right...I really had to back off to think about this one because I love a downtown area with big trees...In the final analysis...Technology would fix the blunder of the Eugene zoners who authorized this rape of an urban center...Its a waste of money to cut down a beautiful tree and then not produce substantial income from the asphalt that replaced it...the city should change managements based on this action...They were stupid...The dumb treehuggers almost had a leg to stand on, and I'm disgusted with Eugene if treehuggers applied for a legal injunction against the development and were denied one illegally(somehow, I doubt this happened)...This was obviously bad government at its worst if that's the case...

Sorry for everybody...

But the Cops who were torturing those kids beyond medical safety...hey...I'm not ambiguous about the actionablity of that at all...Sick em ACLU...I joined for a year...lost interest after they got on yet another anti RKBA bandwagon...marginal objectivity to put it charitably....The people that let the SWAT dogs do that should be in line at OR St. Unemployment Dept. A cop that told some art students filming Seattle's WTO riots from inside a car to roll down their window so He could BLIND the DRIVER with pepper spray was fired for due cause...I couldn't believe it happened! The cop in question was an isolated bad egg, but FR is where we keep an eye on people pushing the envelope...I got my ear out for events in Oregon now...Good Post...tough topic...FREEP ON!

7 posted on 06/01/2002 12:24:26 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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They should have backed off and said, "OK, you guys are only up there for one day until the city council meeting? Expect to be arrested for trespass when you come down."

The fill blown "Make my day" stance caused passive observers to bond with the protesters. Believe me, if the cops could do this over, they would do what they did much differently.

I was one of the first people blasted in the face with OC (pepper-spray), but I had had one eye closed tightly, and never lost my visual footing.

The pain? Hell, I was in the Army and had to do the gas chamber and other fun stuff. I managed to skuttle free and position myself into save spots to watch the show.

It was quite a specticle.

8 posted on 06/01/2002 12:31:51 AM PDT by Glutton
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To: Glutton
What kind of parent brings their little kids to a riot?
9 posted on 06/01/2002 12:37:47 AM PDT by bybybill
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To: sleavelessinseattle
The Oregon State Police were called in to do a major investigation of this event. (I was interviewed by them along with many others.)

I watched them cut Jim Flynn's pant leg and soak him down with OC. When they grabbed his second pantsleg to start the same process - that was getting a healthy amount of OC on Flynn's private parts - Jim lept from one main branch to another.

The scary thing for me was he was three stories up, and his eyes were tightly shut as he was blinded by pepper-spray.

He gave up when the pressure from the fire department cherry picker bucket pulling back pulling on his harness started to cause him to blackout.

I see him every day outside the main office building for activists on Willamette Street by the train station. He is a local folk hero to the anarchist community.

10 posted on 06/01/2002 12:39:36 AM PDT by Glutton
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To: bybybill
Counter-culture and anarchist based families. Many had friends who took part in the deversions and tree scaling aspects of the operations order for the sit.

Most of the casual passerby folks with kids got the heck out of there. That scene was way too violent and intense for kids.

Some of the young teen age and early twenties kids clad in black clothing and boots tore down some fencing, but the police hit them with airborne tear gas and peppersprayed the heck out of them.

I saw one youth, Smurf is his name, kick the mask of a cop. He was arrested later by the State Police and he got a big fine and a week in jail.

If you look at the first photo (click on the "Eugene Weekly" link if indeed the photos are not showing), that's the wheel to his bicycle behind the geared up cops.

He first lost track of that bike, and the city gave him a three hundred dollar compensation check that he got to keep after he "discovered" where the bike was. True story.

11 posted on 06/01/2002 12:48:50 AM PDT by Glutton
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12 posted on 06/01/2002 12:51:27 AM PDT by Glutton
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13 posted on 06/01/2002 12:56:00 AM PDT by Glutton
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To: sleavelessinseattle
Wasn't the Sheriff Deputy fired over the Seattle WTO protest reinstated by an appeals court?
14 posted on 06/01/2002 1:02:41 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Glutton
I`m building a new house, do you know how I can get some of the 2x4s from those trees ? I would be honered to have them in my house. When the truth is told, idiots like Flynn are ruining Oregon. We have the highest unemployment in the country, the state says they are $880 million short, and, we have kazillions of acres of state owned prime timber that the wackos won`t let us cut. Flynn got just what he asked for
15 posted on 06/01/2002 1:09:13 AM PDT by bybybill
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I am intimate with all the facts around the June First Tree Riot in Eugene, but I don't know much about the political aftermath of the demonstrations and riots in Seattle.

Many organized groups and cells of Eugene activists and anarchists took part in Seattle though. I believe Tim Lewis who makes and sells tree-sit, cop-watch, and urban unrest videos has one out that shows Seattle from the Eugene activist perspective.

The actions cells of Eugene activists did in Seattle tended to use non-violent civil disobedience and police disruption tactics extremely well.

For example, lock downs in the street had people assigned to take care of the creature needs of those locked up, and there were always people assigned to "jail support," and media documentation.

16 posted on 06/01/2002 1:17:15 AM PDT by Glutton
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To: bybybill
Most of those sixty to seventy year old hardwoods were sweetgum and big leaf maple trees. I believe you might get some of one buying Whitier Wood Product consumer finished finished tables and chairs made in a mill here on W1st Street.

Only three were conifers, and they were cedars. Symantec, the big software company who benefitted by the parking in this development has fled Eugene to a new building in Eugene's sister city Springfield.

Springfield is way more conservative then Eugene, and is much more development friendly.

Sacred Heart Medical Center is fleeing Eugene too, building a new 25 million dollar hospital in Springfield as well, in fact Springfield has been growing faster then Eugene by quite a bit in recent years.

17 posted on 06/01/2002 1:25:13 AM PDT by Glutton
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I lost track of the process, but I do believe he got a citation for excessive force again some time later so he must have been either hired back or was working for a different police dept...Definitely under a cloud based on media attention...(doesn't help seekers of the truth much), but the video of him spraying two girls in a car was just too STUPID for me to think this guy should be wearing a badge...
18 posted on 06/01/2002 1:30:51 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: Glutton
We take a very dim view of anarchists in Seattle...The police here are very disciplined and responsible when deployed by competent leadership...Whether they have that leadership is not clear based on no confidence votes by the Police union...EVERY non-motorcycle police officer I've ever dealt with in Seattle was worth his salary...

{personal rant alert}Every motorcycle cop I've dealt with here was a complete ASS...I have no ready explanation for that palpable difference...I've received citations from both types of LEO's and its like being detained(or abused, depending on number of wheels under the LEO) in two different countries..."Electra Glide in Blue" on the Brain?

19 posted on 06/01/2002 1:40:14 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: sleavelessinseattle
One of the surreal aspects of the Tree Riot was that the official bullhorn belonging to demonstrators was in the hands of a clueless guy with a funny voice. He later was blasted by demonstrators for not marshalling and galvanizing the crowd effectively, and the State Police grilled him sure he was a ringleader.

Truth is with Micha is he is a meglomaniac who runs for city council ever few years, and makes his living doing the paid petition gatherer trip.

He also sings children's song's horribly, and he also likes to badger cops. (They know him,and usually ignore him as if he were a barking poodle.)

When I close my eyes and remeber this event, I can hear a muffled memory of his dememted Mr. Roger's like voice babbling away.

20 posted on 06/01/2002 1:42:15 AM PDT by Glutton
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